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Rick Perry, Mitt Romney internals show Newt Gingrich slippage, sources say
Politico ^ | December 14, 2011 | MAGGIE HABERMAN |

Posted on 12/14/2011 11:26:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

A weeklong blitz of negative ads from Ron Paul and "Restore Our Future," the pro-Mitt Romney super PAC, have taken a toll on Newt Gingrich's standing in Iowa, internal numbers from the Rick Perry and Romney camps show, according to multiple sources.

Sources didn't provide specific numbers on how far he's slipped, but it's perceptible in both camps' numbers, the sources said.

Perry has been inching up, the sources said - in part thanks to his faith-based push but largely because of his controversial anti-gay rights ad, and the big question is whether he draws at all from Romney and pushes him down out of the top three finishers in the state.

The person who is holding strong, according to the internal numbers, is Paul, who has a true shot of winning the caucuses, according to several Iowa Republican insiders surveying ground games and energy.

"Gingrich [is] leveling off and the attacks are starting to permeate the minds of Iowa caucus-goers," said one veteran Republican caucus-watcher in Iowa. "[The] level of attention being played to the caucuses by Iowans is still high, despite the holidays. That's uncommon. I believe Paul can trip up Newt here, and that's great news for Romney because Newt is done if that happens. Watch Rick Perry. He's going for a top three finish, and that could be to Romney's expense."

If Romney were to come in fourth, that would be awfully hard to recover from, given potential spillover in New Hampshire. And if Paul were to finish first, many Iowa GOPers believe that would be hard for the Hawkeye State to recover from in terms of maintaining premiere status in the nominating process.


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“…..[The] level of attention being played to the caucuses by Iowans is still high, despite the holidays. That's uncommon. I believe Paul can trip up Newt here, and that's great news for Romney because Newt is done if that happens. Watch Rick Perry. He's going for a top three finish, and that could be to Romney's expense."

If Romney were to come in fourth, that would be awfully hard to recover from, given potential spillover in New Hampshire.”…….

1 posted on 12/14/2011 11:26:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield
Rick Perry’s two week road trip has begun

Don't count Perry out just yet

2 posted on 12/14/2011 11:27:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is not easy for me to root for Governor Perry, but I find myself doing so.


3 posted on 12/14/2011 11:29:15 AM PST by Ingtar (Newt (four more for Obama) & Mitt (Obamacare) - what wonderful choices!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Internal polls are garbage. I remember John McCain had internal polls showing he was going to win !!! HAHAHAHAHAAH !


4 posted on 12/14/2011 11:30:35 AM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Ingtar

=^D


5 posted on 12/14/2011 11:32:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It was bound to happen. I have said all along it will be Perry and Mitt. Gingrich will lose some support to Romney and some to Perry but will stay in the vicinity of those two.

The more Perry reemerges as a viable alternative to Romney, voters will move from Gingrich to Perry.

Remember also that Gingrich has very little ground game and this is where it pays off. If Gingrich has soft support, they stay home or will be swayed as the local push in Iowa starts to feel like a very Perry Christmas.

6 posted on 12/14/2011 11:32:24 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Reagan69
Internal polls are garbage. ....

Really?

Odd that campaigns would pay for them if that were true.

7 posted on 12/14/2011 11:34:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

http://townhall.com/columnists/byronyork/2011/12/12/surging_fast_gingrich_looks_to_take_iowa

Right, Newt sure is “slipping” by golly. Perry is up to 7% now......Oh wait, that’s were he was a month ago.....Never mind.


8 posted on 12/14/2011 11:34:39 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in t,he road, take it........)
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To: normy
......Iowa starts to feel like a very Perry Christmas.

And Rick Perry's 2 week bus tour of Iowa ends in Perry, Iowa.

9 posted on 12/14/2011 11:36:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Reagan69
No they are not. Maybe McCain was lying to himself. Internal polling tells you where you are at. I am sure Cain's internals told him it was time to exit. Perry's internals are telling him to stay and Mitt's are telling him he has a good chance.

What Mitts internals probably also mention is that Perry is gaining at Newt's expense not Mitt.

I also believe that Perry's response about the drone and that Obama being the problem and not something Newt Gingrich said,caught people in Iowa's attention in a very positive way. Perry looked pissed.

10 posted on 12/14/2011 11:36:50 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Psychological Operations (PSYOPS)


11 posted on 12/14/2011 11:37:12 AM PST by TBBT
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I will cast my pragmatic vote for the GOP nominee - I don’t get emotionally invested in politicians - but it’s hard not to like Perry. He’s a good man.


12 posted on 12/14/2011 11:38:35 AM PST by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012! (That's my story and I'm sticking to it.))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Perry has bumped up to 13% in two polls back to back. Newt has dropped. It still isn’t close but there is still one debate before Iowa and Perry is living there as of today.


13 posted on 12/14/2011 11:39:06 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Yeah. They’re just making it all up.

LOL

What ‘cha going to do when he keeps rising.

Up 8 already [and believe me it PAINS the liberal Houston Chronicle to report it]

“In an American Research Group poll, Perry has gained 8 percentage points, while a University of Iowa Hawkeye Polls has him up two points. In the ARG poll, Perry gained the most support of any candidate, and frontrunners Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich actually lost support in that poll.”

http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2011/12/perry-gains-ground-in-iowa-though-gingrich-still-rules-the-roost/


14 posted on 12/14/2011 11:40:11 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: normy

Reminds me of those glimmers of hope back in the Fred Thompson days.


15 posted on 12/14/2011 11:40:44 AM PST by TBBT
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I just don’t understand the TEA Parties man crush on Newt all of a sudden. You could not get a kind word from a TEA Party member about Newt when Cain and Perry were on top and Newt was in the single digits. It’s one thing to have to support the guy because no one else has caught fire. But it’s quite another to get amnesia about all the reasons you did not like Newt a few months ago.

Obama Must Go, and any of our candidates would be a vast improvement over what we have now. But I’ve lost my excitement and enthusiasm for the election because I’m not crazy about any of the names left. Kind of the way I felt when Fred Thompson dropped out in 2008. I disliked McCain even more that most of us dislike Romney today and I felt like a deflated balloon. We all did. Yet, something changed in that election that brought back the momentum and excitement, and it even had many of us reach for our check books to send the McCain campaign a little something, or ask how we might volunteer. If you look back on the 2008 archives of FR you will see how enthused we were. So what happened? PALIN. One of the smartest picks of a VP in presidential history.

If McCain did not run such a horrible campaign following that pick Obama would still be just a Senator from ILL.

We can only hope that Newt, Mitt, or whoever can really give the VP pick some thought and think back to 2008. There are a number of names that would give us that feeling back.


16 posted on 12/14/2011 11:40:44 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Some interesting things to watch for and comment on:

A: the negative ads by everyone at Newt has to have an effect and that’s what we are seeing. Now, will it keep knocking him down or will it be over kill and boomerang? After all, he’s been very generous to all the others in all the debates. Who knows, but it could happen.
B: A big showing by Paul does not hurt Newt per se - it probably just hurts Iowa’s standing in the big picture and may hurt Bachmann.
C: Will Thursday’s debate reverse this trend?
D: weather and ground game can always be factor in cold Iowa.

Very interesting to follow.


17 posted on 12/14/2011 11:42:24 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: All

HANG IN THERE, RICK!


18 posted on 12/14/2011 11:43:12 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sources didn't provide specific numbers on how far he's slipped, but it's perceptible in both camps' numbers, the sources said. Sources? I never met this guy Sources. Never seen Sources on T.V. either.
19 posted on 12/14/2011 11:43:20 AM PST by TBBT
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To: truthkeeper
....but it’s hard not to like Perry. He’s a good man.

And he tells the truth to the voters.

Presidential Candidate [Perry] Holds Agriculture Conference Call in Iowa -- NO ethanol subsidies -- NO subsides for oil and gas. CUT THE REGULATIONS and let the markets decide.

20 posted on 12/14/2011 11:43:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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