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Former Occidental College mate: Obama an “ardent Marxist-Leninist”
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-09-11 | Mataharley

Posted on 12/10/2011 8:45:22 AM PST by Starman417

In between the establishment GOP elected elite and their fellow pundits, all in an uproar about Newt's rise in the polls, and the Ron Paul supporters pouring on the steam pushing their guy... let's have another type of fun, shall we? After all, these are the days when people like Palin and Cain are tried in the court of public opinion based on past confessions and accusations. It would be a pity to leave Obama out of our new age justice system.

Seems that an old story is rebounding via Selwyn Duke over at the New American today. An old Occidental College contemporary of Obama's three decades ago - John Drew, himself a self-described Marxist at the time - says that Obama was an "ardent Marxist-Leninist" during his years there, and as of today, Drew doesn't think he's changed one iota.

Drew doesn’t believe the President has changed, either, and I agree. I explained why in a follow-up to Kengor’s piece, writing:

Some may say that a person can change markedly over a 30-year period. This is true.

…Yet a transition from flat-out "Marxist-Leninist" to someone who rejects the red menace is a pretty big change, don't you think? In fact, wouldn't such a personal evolution — some might say revolution — be a kind of conversion? I think so.

…There's an interesting thing, however, about conversions.

You hear about them.

You see, a conversion is a sea change, a rebirth, a turning point in your existence. You may become, as Christians say, a new creation, and you're at least a reformed old one. And you reflect your new state of being and often want to voice it.

And those around you will know about it.

As for this writer, everyone who knows me would say that my religious conversion was a seminal point in my life.

Now consider something. Barack Obama is one of the most famous, most discussed individuals on the planet.

But we have not heard about any soul-changing conversion in his life.

Not a whisper.

Nothing.

Nothing that could reconcile the flat-out Marxist-Leninist Obama was in his college days with the man he supposedly is today. There's no one who says, "Yeah, he was a radical guy in his youth, and I just couldn't believe how he became disenchanted with his old ideas."

At the time, Drew...who says he "...was a more nuanced Marxist"... attempted to convince Obama that old style Communist revolution was unrealistic for Western nations. Obama, disagreeing, considered Drew a "reactionary", and would have none of that nonsense.

But, as referenced above in his article today, Mr. Duke was not the first to report on John Drew's emergence with his not so surprising revelation of Obama's penchant for Marxism. That would actually be American Thinker's Paul Kengor, who, in his article one day shy of a year ago, called John Drew "Obama's Missing Link". Drew surfaced about a year before Kengor penned the article, contacting him after reading an piece he had written on Frank Davis and Obama. Apparently, like so many these days, he had something he wanted to get off his chest.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: drew; johndrew; marxist; marxistobama; obama; obamamarxist; occidental; socialism
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1 posted on 12/10/2011 8:45:27 AM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

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2 posted on 12/10/2011 8:47:02 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Starman417

Shouldn’t this be in “chat”?


3 posted on 12/10/2011 8:54:26 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Starman417
Obama an “ardent Marxist-Leninist”

Well, DUH.

4 posted on 12/10/2011 8:58:02 AM PST by Albion Wilde (A land of hyper-legalisms is not the same as a land of law. --Mark Steyn)
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To: Starman417

FINALLY!!!!!
This guy has NO past to report...
like he was born YESTERDAY...
(in Kenya!)


5 posted on 12/10/2011 9:01:17 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Paladin2

Why?


6 posted on 12/10/2011 9:01:58 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Starman417

Revealing facts about The Anointed/Appointed One’s past is RACST!


7 posted on 12/10/2011 9:07:30 AM PST by Old Sarge (RIP FReeper Skyraider (1930-2011) - You Are Missed)
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To: Williams

It’s not news around here.


8 posted on 12/10/2011 9:09:09 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Fred Nerks

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/12/obamas_missing_link_1.html

Drew: As far as I can tell, I’m the only person in Obama’s extended circle of friends who is willing to speak out and verify that he was a Marxist-Leninist in his sophomore year of college from 1980 to 1981. I met him because I graduated from Occidental College in 1979, and I was back at Occidental visiting a girlfriend.

Kengor: Was Occidental known for radical-left politics? Would that have been an attraction to Obama?

Drew: It was considered the Moscow of southern California when I was there. There were a lot of Marxist professors, many of whom I got to know pretty well. ... What I know absolutely for sure — and this is where I really sought you out and I really wanted to be helpful in terms of the historic record — was to verify that Barack Obama was definitely a Marxist and that it was very unusual for a sophomore at Occidental to be as radical or as ideologically attuned as young Barack Obama was.

Kengor: You said that Obama was introduced to you at Occidental College as a Marxist? Because you were one [a Marxist] at that point?

Drew: Yeah, that’s embarrassing for me, but I studied Marxist economics when I was at the University of Sussex in England. I had a junior-year scholarship over there and I did my senior honors thesis on Marxist economics when I was at Occidental College. And I also founded [the] Democratic Student Socialist Alliance, you know, under a different name, in 1976.

Kengor: John, now you had told me before, and I’m reading from my own book here, “Obama was already an ardent Marxist when I met him in the fall of 1980. [Quotation from above continued.]”

Drew: Yeah, that’s exactly right. Obama believed, at the time I met him — this was probably around Christmastime in 1980 — because, you know, I had flown out during Christmas break from Cornell, where I was doing my graduate work. Young Obama was looking forward to an imminent social revolution — literally a movement where the working classes would overthrow the ruling class and institute a kind of socialist utopia in the United States. I mean, that’s how extreme his views were his sophomore year of college.

Kengor: And you would know this because you were a comrade, so to speak.

Drew: Yeah, I was a comrade, but I was kind of more what Michael Savage called the “Frankfurt School” of Marxism at the time. I was, you know, I felt like I was doing Obama a favor by pointing out that the Marxist revolution that he and [our friends] were hoping for was really kind of a pipe dream, and that there was nothing in European history or the history of developed nations that would make that sort of fantasy — you know, Frank Marshall Davis fantasy of revolution — come true.

Kengor: So you had a realistic sense that even though you liked these ideas, it [Marxist revolution] really couldn’t happen or really wouldn’t even work.

Drew: Right. I was ... still a card-carrying Marxist, but I was kind of a more advanced, East Coast, Cornell University Marxist, I think, at the time.

Kengor: But Obama thought it was practical — he thought you could make this happen in America?

Drew: Oh yeah, and he kind of thought I was, you know, a little reactionary —

Kengor: — that you were conservative compared to him!

Drew: Yeah, like I was kind of insensitive to the needs of the coming revolution. So that’s why I said [Obama] was full-bore, 100% into that simpleminded Marxist, revolutionary mental framework.


9 posted on 12/10/2011 9:15:32 AM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: Starman417

Anyone and I repeat anyone who looked a trillionth of an inch below President Obama’s “calm” surface would have been able to see long before the last election that he is a Marxist. His parents and grandparents were leftists. The people who influenced him growing up and many of his associations now are Marxists. President Obama hates this country and is doing everything in his power to destroy it. John McCain had a twisted sense of fairness, and he didn’t even try to show the voters who Barack Obama was. In this sense, McCain didn’t just harm himself; he did irreparable harm to this country. We will be paying for McCain’s sense of “fairness” for years to come.


10 posted on 12/10/2011 9:21:07 AM PST by Essie
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To: Old Sarge

Right you are. What most folks refuse to accept is that is doesn’t matter one bit what is revealed about him there is absolutely nothing that will be done. The halfrican-american is THE first “black” president thus untouchable. As someone called him “the fresh prince of bill ayres”. Now that struck the old funny bone in an odd sort of way.

Go NAVY!!!! Game day. Woo Hoo!


11 posted on 12/10/2011 9:23:42 AM PST by rktman
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To: Starman417

Too many in this nation believes that there is nothing wrong with communism as long as the RIGHT people are in charge and the media along with academia are the biggest cheerleaders of this ideal.

We conservatives care but the rest of the nation is asleep or brainwashed.


12 posted on 12/10/2011 9:29:55 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Essie
John McCain had a twisted sense of fairness, and he didn’t even try to show the voters who Barack Obama was. In this sense, McCain didn’t just harm himself; he did irreparable harm to this country. We will be paying for McCain’s sense of “fairness” for years to come.

McCain's a fool - he's our 'Jimmah Carter'...

13 posted on 12/10/2011 9:37:51 AM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: Essie
John McCain had a twisted sense of fairness, and he didn’t even try to show the voters who Barack Obama was. In this sense, McCain didn’t just harm himself; he did irreparable harm to this country. We will be paying for McCain’s sense of “fairness” for years to come.

McCain's a fool - he's our 'Jimmah Carter'...

One more reason to back Newt - he's no one's fool and he's a fighter.

14 posted on 12/10/2011 9:38:45 AM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: Starman417
[Occidental College] was considered the Moscow of southern California when I was there.

I can vouch for that--I was at "Moscow on the hill" for four years.

15 posted on 12/10/2011 9:42:45 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Starman417

Every day there’s at least one news story calling for Captain Obvious.


16 posted on 12/10/2011 9:50:33 AM PST by lurk
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Oh they are brainwashed alright. A friend of mine in his 50’s has started back to night classes and his English assignments are mostly term papers on the evils of the Founding Fathers or “practice” letters to Congress explaining the need for more money into “higher education”. Sheesh!


17 posted on 12/10/2011 9:54:32 AM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Essie

Exactly so. All you really had to do was read Dreams From My Father and have the tiniest bit of historical context and ability to read between the lines. And really you didn’t have to read between the lines much, most of it was in the open.


18 posted on 12/10/2011 10:00:37 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Starman417

“Page not found” at link.


19 posted on 12/10/2011 10:18:55 AM PST by Signalman
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To: Essie

McCaine new exactly what he was doing during his campaign and his job was to hand Obozo the presidency. McCaine’s reward was being handed his senate seat again. In national politics, if the people’s voice meant anything it would threaten the grip the ruling elite and the mob have on this country. They own most of the media and I understand there is a conglomerate buying up American arms manufacturing companies. It’s obvious how that fits with their ploy to control.


20 posted on 12/10/2011 10:43:05 AM PST by drypowder
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