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Perry’s in-state tuition Works for Texas (and Utah..)
The New Texas Forum ^ | October 26, 2011 | Katie Thompson, Chairman of College Republicans at St. Edwards

Posted on 10/26/2011 12:34:55 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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2002 Passed: In-State Tuition for Undocumented Students in Utah

March 1, 2011 Amended: Utah in-state tuition for non-citizens .........."The House did amend the bill to require undocumented students, their parents or guardian to pay state income taxes for three years as a condition of obtaining in-state tuition. The time period matches the amount of years a student must attend a Utah high school (and graduate) to be eligible for the benefit.

Wimmer said that's not an unreasonable expectation. "All we're asking is for a little personal responsibility," he said. "How could that be wrong?"

Rep. Rebecca Chavez-Houck, D-Salt Lake, said legislators could be treading on equal protection laws.

"It almost smacks of being a poll or special tax," she said.

As for HB191 itself, which ultimately passed 44-28, Rep. Kay McIff, R-Richfield, invoked Abraham Lincoln and Brown v. Board of Education Supreme Court ruling in arguing against it. He said it would discourage Latinos, whether citizens or not, from going to college.

"If we narrow the schoolhouse doors in any way, we go against our higher duty," he said.

Majority Assistant Whip Ronda Rudd Menlove, R-Garland, said everyone is frustrated over the federal government's inaction on illegal immigration. But "we're going to take out our frustration with a broken system … and punish 650 students."..

1 posted on 10/26/2011 12:35:01 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield

Oct 6, 2011 Interviewing Rick Perry On Illegal Immigration [10 Points]

2 posted on 10/26/2011 12:36:14 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This policy makes sense, of course, given the constraints states face in regards to illegal immigration. A dozen states have similar policies.

Oh, in before the anti-Perry kill them illegals troll squad.


3 posted on 10/26/2011 12:41:04 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
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4 posted on 10/26/2011 12:42:04 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No Thanks Anita. We’ll go with our conservative options.


5 posted on 10/26/2011 12:42:34 PM PDT by NoMitt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Give it up. We know what your boy thinks of us. Now you know what we think of him.

Best thing he can do is just go away!

6 posted on 10/26/2011 12:43:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How can they become productive citizens as this purports if they are not citizens? That argument alone makes it a form of dream act. It is like rewarding frequent flier miles to the thief who used tickets belonging to someone else.


7 posted on 10/26/2011 12:43:15 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Bullshit.

No. 1, why teach in Spanish and accomodate non-English speaking interlopers? Why not make English the Official Language in Texas, requiring NO PRINTING IN SPANISH of an State Documents, no Non-English text books, no Non-English signage of any kind produced by the State?

THEN, we'll believe this drivel.

8 posted on 10/26/2011 12:43:42 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Ingtar

“Committing to become Citizens” is a far cry from “Must become U.S. Citizens, prior to Application”.


9 posted on 10/26/2011 12:45:20 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How any real American can support this is beyond me. Damn illegal-lovers.


10 posted on 10/26/2011 12:48:04 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: traditional1

He’s a stammering, stuttering, soft-on-illegals- Governor of Texas running for President.

Seems like we’ve seen this movie before. It didn’t end well.


11 posted on 10/26/2011 12:50:06 PM PDT by Grunthor (Poster may come off as abrasive, perhaps even rude. Consider this your warning.)
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To: buccaneer81

Texas passed it ten years ago.

If this is beyond you, ask Texans why they haven’t repealed it.


12 posted on 10/26/2011 12:51:20 PM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Critics say it’s a policy Texans don’t support. But it was overwhelmingly passed by the state legislature in 2001 with just five dissenting votes out of the 181 members in both houses. If that isn’t a majority, and a bipartisan one at that, I don’t know what is.”

2001?????????????

Nice try to distort the issue. Yes, Americans as a whole were more receptive of illegals and amnesty back then (2001), because the tagline was that they were coming her to survive and for a better life, and that they were actively assimilating into American culture, not the other away around. In 2001, there really wasn’t up uproar.

Then around 2004/2005, the illegals started getting bold. They no longer wanted to concentrate on assimiliation. They DEMANDED rights. They started singing the National Anthem in Spanish and protesting in large numbers in majors cities with the Mexican flag. When people started to see that, that’s when the whole issue changed to no Amnesty.

Tancredo’s Opinion Column from August sums up the Majority view now (if it wasn’t the majority view, Perry’s numbers wouldn’t have tanked)
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61076.html


13 posted on 10/26/2011 12:51:37 PM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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Oh, in before the anti-Perry kill them illegals troll squad.

How about all the innocent US citizens killed by the sainted illegals?

14 posted on 10/26/2011 12:52:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: traditional1

“If you’ll give me enough money, I’ll commit to becoming a Democrat.” How is this commitment any different? What enforces it? Suppose they commit to try, do so, and are denied? Who pays the difference?


15 posted on 10/26/2011 12:52:27 PM PDT by Ingtar
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But the people of Texas and the law support it

HORSE SH*T! I have kids in college and one was roomed in the dorms with one of those DREAM ACT illegals. Talk about a free ride. You do NOT want me to get started on this soap box. NO YOU DO NOT! There is not one Texan I know of that supports this crap.

16 posted on 10/26/2011 12:53:52 PM PDT by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: silverleaf
Texas legislators passed it. I would hate to think that most Texans support the invasion.
17 posted on 10/26/2011 12:54:55 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A 2010 Texas Tribune Poll found that 77% of Texans OPPOSE in-state tuition for illegals.

It doesn’t “work” for Texas. It’s being crammed down our throats.

Gov. Perry will NEVER rationalize away this issue to the satisfaction of conservatives. So long as you - and him - keep defending this blatant catering to illegal entry, his campaign is going to stay in the single digits.


18 posted on 10/26/2011 12:55:43 PM PDT by ziravan (You don't have to be a rocket scientist to be President. . . but it helps!)
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To: muawiyah
"Perry’s in-state tuition Works for Texas (and Utah..)"

Good for them, THEY CAN KEEP IT, and Perry with it. As for the rest of "HEARTLESS" America, we DON'T want any part of Perry or his plan to bring his ILLEGAL ALIENS FIRST or "love ILLEGAL ALIEN in-state tuition" policies to the rest of America.

As you so aptly said: "Give it up. We know what your boy thinks of us. Now you know what we think of him."

"Best thing he can do is just go away!"

19 posted on 10/26/2011 12:56:31 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: buccaneer81

can’t be a state citizen of any state unless you are or become a US citizen first - that is codified federal law from what I’ve read.


20 posted on 10/26/2011 12:58:19 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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