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How to Spot the Triggers of a Socioeconomic Collapse
SHTF Plan.com/ Fernando Ferfal Aguirre ^ | 9/19/11 | Fernando Ferfal Aguirre

Posted on 09/19/2011 4:18:04 PM PDT by Kartographer

Things to look for would be unemployment, rumors from people within the banking and financial world (some of those rumors saved people millions when our economy collapsed) crime and what type of crime is taking place, corruption, debt and inflation. You must also become pretty skeptical regarding the information the main stream media provides. Who OWNS such media channels? Who are their sponsors and advertisers? What political agenda do they have or slightly tend to favor? If the media says the economy is doing wonderful but people on the street are barely getting by and you see more industries moving abroad, do have your doubts.

All these events and signs do tell you something. Don’t wait for the official SHTF day, in socioeconomic terms that simply will never happen, you will simply look back one day and realize the world around you has already changed. That is indeed how people will be taken by surprise. People sometimes talk about rule of law and no rule of law times, as if it were an on/off switch. One day everything is fine but the next week, ups!

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Beware normalcy bias!

Remember:

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”

1 posted on 09/19/2011 4:18:06 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!!!


2 posted on 09/19/2011 4:19:05 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

It should be clear to all that the world’s economy is on life support and the doctors are all ‘quacks’! The PIGS are just now finding out that their troughs are empty and that no one can afford to filled them!And a unfed pigs is a mean animal, they will turn on anything and everything including each other.

What kind of a mess you ask, well I think that we are in for something like the collapse of Argentina ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index )but on a global scale. Additionally I think we will see a much more violent version. As recent events show (Flash Mobs, UK riots, etc)we have a larger entitlement minded population and a the US has a much more violent and armed population than Argentina. I see many many small business wiped out by flash mob looting, and see rape, robbery and murder for murder sake. Many of these ‘yutes’ will think no more about killing you than most people think about stepping on a roach. That will be the test of many. Most preppers I know are Christian people and they will hesitate to do what they might have to do to stop the ‘yutes’. On the other hand the ‘yutes’ won’t think twice nor lose a minute of sleep, in fact they will smile and laugh about it.

Think of this quote which is one of my favorites:

“Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.

Now go look at some of the videos of the riots in the UK and of some of the flash mobs here in the US and look into there eyes.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

Or Yeats:
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,


3 posted on 09/19/2011 4:23:44 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

The best indicator is when they come for 401ks. That is the biggest chunk of money out there.


4 posted on 09/19/2011 4:46:24 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Kartographer

Well Italy got downgraded today, Greece is going bankrupt, and we’re doing another QE to bail out Europe. Could those be signs?


5 posted on 09/19/2011 4:46:35 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kartographer

This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o64Fz-KW1Dk


6 posted on 09/19/2011 4:52:23 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: call meVeronica

Bump for later


7 posted on 09/19/2011 5:05:12 PM PDT by call meVeronica
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To: Kartographer
Sometimes that shark he looks right into ya. Right into your eyes. And, you know, the thing about a shark... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.
8 posted on 09/19/2011 5:06:34 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

The only difference is a ‘human shark’ laughs while he does it.


9 posted on 09/19/2011 5:08:01 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
bingo...
10 posted on 09/19/2011 5:09:30 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Kartographer

We just had our own SHTF event on Thursday and I’m glad I won’t have to buy much food for a while.


11 posted on 09/19/2011 5:23:30 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki

what happened Tiki?


12 posted on 09/19/2011 5:43:55 PM PDT by cherry
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To: driftdiver
I know nothing about a collapse, etc....I've never been given a decent realistic idea of what a collapes would mean....

but we have to see the forest for the trees...

its not the great big things that are going to happen...IMO its the little things already slipping by...

the loss of freedom of speech and religion.....most people are afraid to be completely honest even on an internet blog....we're afraid to protest gay marriage...afraid to put our names on petitions....they have already silenced us....

taxes and fees and restrictions will be our great undoing, over time...

a fee here...a fee there...a limitation here or there....pretty soon property taxes could be based on INCOME and not the property....they'll justify it all by saying its only "fair"....

food will be the least of our worries folks.....

they have our names...they have our addresses....if they wanted, they could drum up any number of charges in order to invade our homes....child porn, or drugs...or too many guns...or hoarding gold...

when the start making up the rules as they go....THAT is when we're goners....

and to think that most people under age 40 or 50 don't even KNOW what the rule of law means,,,,don't know what it means to have a Bill of Rights...

13 posted on 09/19/2011 5:50:56 PM PDT by cherry
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To: AngieGal

ping


14 posted on 09/19/2011 6:26:41 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: glorgau
"The best indicator is when they come for 401ks. That is the biggest chunk of money out there. "

Well?

Market Havoc and Threats to Your Pension

Looting the 401k's has started, the government wants your taxes and retirement, Greece awaits default, and Pandora's box will open, Europe financially upside down, NYC legacy banks could lose billions, no COLA increase for retirees. ...

We have warned subscribers and listeners and those on the Internet over and over again that government was going to come after your private retirement funds including 401K’s and IRA’s that hold $6.6 trillion in investments.

15 posted on 09/19/2011 7:03:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: GraceG
And yet, a segment—probably a too big segment of America—believes this is a myth that a significant number of black people believe they can have what they want for free. So long as we allow the mythos to drown too many, we perpetuate the lies. Welfare shills, there is no free lunch: before you can digest that free crap, your society is pushed deeper in debt that you as free slugs cannot and will not repay. Someone has to pay. Are you that stupid and that selfish? You'll die a shill at that rate. barry loves his stupid shills, especially black and stupid shills. Wake up. Be a person not a shill, be a being not a dispensable dust mite in barry’s cloud of dust.
16 posted on 09/19/2011 7:20:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: cherry
Goners? ... No, that is when your fellow Americans realize the fed is the enemy and begin resisting with force. Yes, many will fall to the overwhelming fire power that the FED can bring to a scene. But they cannot sustain that firepower longer than we can sustain our resolve to resist tyranny. ... eventually, the pawns realize they are pawns not bishops, and they ALWAYS reject being used against their neighbors when they see they're use.
17 posted on 09/19/2011 7:27:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: cherry
they have our names...they have our addresses....if they wanted, they could drum up any number of charges in order to invade our homes....child porn, or drugs...or too many guns...or hoarding gold...

For a realistic and frightening idea of what that would (will?) be like consider the Matthew Bracken books.

I've finished the first two and I can tell you they are real page turners!

Enemies Foreign And Domestic

Domestic Enemies: The Reconquista

Foreign Enemies And Traitors

Castigo Cay


18 posted on 09/19/2011 7:34:12 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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And it will not happen on a large scale, The oligarchs cannot hise their agenda in a large canvas. I will happen in a small scale, like WACO. It will however have a very different ‘smell’ to it. WACO was a personal scam from a sexual degenerate using his proxy fools. What is coming will do everything it can to appear the counter to assault on America, much the way the lies of barry bassturd now seem to be so in tuned with the founder’s values as his legislative agenda works to end the Republic of the People.


19 posted on 09/19/2011 7:34:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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And it will not happen on a large scale, The oligarchs cannot hide their agenda in a large canvas. I will happen in a small scale, like WACO. It will however have a very different ‘smell’ to it. WACO was a personal scam from a sexual degenerate using his proxy fools. What is coming will do everything it can to appear the counter to assault on America and American values, much the way the lies of barry bassturd now seem to be so in tuned with the founder’s values as his legislative agenda works to end the Republic of the People.


20 posted on 09/19/2011 7:35:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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