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Henry George and the birth of Fabian Socialism
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Posted on 09/09/2011 8:42:34 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

In "The history of the Fabian Society", by Edward Pease, this is written:

Emile de Lavelaye was quite correct in attributing significance to the publication of "Progress and Poverty," though the seed sown by Henry George took root, not in the slums and alleys of our cities—no intellectual seed of any sort can germinate in the sickly, sunless atmosphere of slums—but in the minds of people who had sufficient leisure and education to think of other things than breadwinning. Henry George proposed to abolish poverty by political action: that was the new gospel which came from San Francisco in the early eighties. "Progress and Poverty" was published in America in 1879, and its author visited England at the end of 1881. Socialism hardly existed at that time in English-speaking countries, but the early advocates of land taxation were not then, as they usually are now, uncompromising individualists.

Edward Pease was a founding member of the Fabian society. Henry George was also influential with another future Fabian socialist. in 1911, Archibald Henderson wrote a biography of George Bernard Shaw:(page 96)

At that time, Bernard Shaw eagerly haunted public meetings of all kinds. By a strange chance, he wandered that night into the Memorial Hall in Farringdon Street. The speaker of the evening was Henry George: his speech wrought a miracle in Shaw's whole life. It "kindled the fire" in his soul. "It flashed on me then for the first time," Shaw once wrote, that " the conflict between Religion and Science" ... the over throw of the Bible, the higher education of women, Mill on Liberty, and all the rest of the storm that raged round Darwin, Tyndall, Huxley, Spencer, and the rest, on which I had brought myself up intellectually, was a mere middle-class business. Suppose it could have produced a nation of Matthew Arnolds and George Eliots! — you may well shudder. The importance of the economic basis dawned on me." Shaw now read Progress and Poverty; and many of the observations which the fifteen-year-old Shaw had unconsciously made now took on a significance little suspected in the early Dublin days of his indifference to land agency .

Shaw was so profoundly impressed by the logic of Henry George's conclusions and suggested remedial measures that, shortly after reading Progress and Poverty he went to a meeting of the Social Democratic Federation, and there arose to protest against their drawing a red herring across the track opened by George. The only satisfaction he had was to be told that he was a novice: "Read Marx's Capital, young man" was the condescending retort of the Social Democrats.

Progress and Poverty, by Henry George

Many of the early 20th century progressives were themselves Fabians. So understanding the Fabian society has relevance to understanding progressivism.


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1 posted on 09/09/2011 8:42:42 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: ProgressingAmerica
You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you can’t justify your existence, if you’re not pulling your weight in the social boat, if you’re not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we cannot use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can’t be of very much use to yourself.

George Bernard Shaw, Fabian socialist.

Fabian Window, designed by Shaw and today hangs in the london school of economics.

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I suggest taking a look at the large view for some interesting symbolism. For instance the Fabian Shield is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Fabian Window large view
2 posted on 09/09/2011 8:50:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek

can you just point me to the line that says the Catholic church is behind it so I don’t have to read the whole thing?


3 posted on 09/09/2011 9:01:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I doubt the Catholic church or any other was behind it.


4 posted on 09/09/2011 9:03:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek
the imagery in this is even more telling:


5 posted on 09/09/2011 9:03:42 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: Irenic

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6 posted on 09/09/2011 9:03:53 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: cripplecreek
And look at this "star" imagery (with just a bit of googling), which seems to be very ominous:

Just what is the meaning of that gold disk in the middle?

7 posted on 09/09/2011 9:06:24 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand

There was an attorney in this area who is named Fabian, he made big news by luring teenage boys to his house and turd burgling them.


8 posted on 09/09/2011 9:06:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek

sorry FRiend. It’s smart@ss Friday.


9 posted on 09/09/2011 9:07:31 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand

No problem.

George Soros is a fabian socialist.

If I’m not mistaken he paid for the restoration and dedication of the fabian window at the London School of Economics.


10 posted on 09/09/2011 9:09:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek

Interesting


11 posted on 09/09/2011 9:21:06 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: the invisib1e hand

I remember Fabian. He was a singer.

Boy, that’s an old memory.


12 posted on 09/09/2011 9:26:08 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

13 posted on 09/09/2011 9:28:43 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Do you know if that Shaw biography by Henderson leans in favor of or against Shaw?

I looked it up on Amazon but I don't see any reviews.

14 posted on 09/09/2011 9:46:11 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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The author’s introduction seems to favor Shaw. There’s a picture of the two of them together after page viii. A review of the book would be great, if you’d like to be the one to do it. I’d be willing to post it on my blog too, if you wanted. Whatever fosters the discussion of progressivism is a good thing to me.


15 posted on 09/10/2011 9:54:29 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: cripplecreek; the invisib1e hand; Irenic; vanilla swirl; combat_boots; freedomlover; ...

Progressivism ping

If you haven’t already, consider joining my ping list. Thanks


16 posted on 09/10/2011 9:57:53 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Yeah go ahead and put me on your list.


17 posted on 09/10/2011 10:00:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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