Anders Behring Breivik: A “Rightwing Christian Extremist”?

Weekend Libertarian ^ | 24 July, 2011 | B.P. Terpstra

[AustralianConservative]

The “Hunt for possible second gunman in Norway” post by our ABC’s [Australia] Europe correspondent Rachael Brown (“Updated July 24, 2011 15:15:55”) is clear:

Key details:

• 92 dead, may rise to 98 • Ring-wing Christian extremist charged • His farm searched for explosives • Possibility of a second gunman

Traditionally, the ABC plays down religion when Islam is linked to a massacre. Now, curiously, messengers see a “Right-wing Christian extremist charged” – his alleged faith and politics, in bold type. But did journalists and reporters jump too early?

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In sum, then, an organic-loving fan of trance music, with a penchant for progressive shows such as Dexter, liberal America’s critically-acclaimed HBO series based around the life of a sympathetic serial killer, is a “Right-wing Christian extremist”?

Indeed, it appears as though the ABC has uncritically embraced one anti-Christian narrative, without thought.

Now to The Washington Post with Foreign Policy:

A Facebook account linked to Breivik cites his favorite books as John Stuart Mill’s On Liberty, Franz Kafka’s The Trial, and George Orwell’s 1984, among others. Another interest is hunting. It was not possible to confirm if the Twitter and Facebook accounts and posts belonged to the suspect in the shooting.

If we can confirm the Twitter account (cited by the ABC) and his Facebook details, Anders Behring Breivik “the Christian fundamentalist” was a very big fan of John Stuart Mill.

The “Christian fundamentalist” didn’t list the Bible? Instead, a text by a godless philosopher? Curious, indeed.

[AustralianConservative]

http://weekendlibertarian.blogspot.com/2011/07/anders-behring-breivik-rightwing.html

[MNDude]

Anyone know, Does his 1500 page manifesto talk about his Christian beliefs?

[Beowulf9]

Man, that page with the blue waves can give you a headache just looking at it.

Besides that, as anyone who is thinking knows, a person who blows up people is not a Christian.

[scooby321]

Anyone know, Does his 1500 page manifesto talk about his Christian beliefs?

No

[pyx]

Anders Behring Breivik of Norway PLAGIARISED from his ideological hero, Ted Kaczynski, The Unibomber's manifesto.

The FR referenced posting is here.

[GAB-1955]

The journalist's lazy default response:

He wasn't a Muslim, a Hindu, a Buddhist or a Jew. Therefore, he's a Christian by default.

It's like how I was Jewish by default when I lived in New York City: I wasn't Irish, Italian, Black or Hispanic. Us Welsh-Cherokees are rara avises.

[Meet the New Boss]

This event is a huge boon to the Marxists. If there wasn’t this guy, the Left would have to invent him. They have been scouring the land for right-wing terrorism in order to justify the full-blown police state and crush any residual attachment to the traditional national culture.

One of their primary weapons against the traditional national cultures of Europe is mass immigration. The problem for Norwegians is that once Oslo looks little different from Lahore or Djibouti, the Norwegian culture will be lost forever, but Pakistan and Somalia will continue on.

The Left believes that once they crush all remaining attachment to national culture and identity, they can then turn their guns on Islam, having used it to destroy their enemies and having no use for it anymore. They may be in for a surprise in that day.

[Myrddin]

My wife shares your Welsh/Cherokee connection. I’m Welsh/Irish/Scot with a few drops of some other invading group in southwest England/Wales 700+ years back.

[ChildOfThe60s]

Indeed, it appears as though the ABC has uncritically embraced one anti-Christian narrative, without thought.

I would dispute the conclusion that ABC did it "without thought". Just the opposite. It was thought out and deliberate.

[ronnie raygun]

I tend to believe that Norway and the present government did not dance to the tune the globalists were playing so they stopped thier music. Of coarse they have to leave room for the hieghtened alert scenario, anyone other than muslim terrorist, preferable a white christian fundamentalist. BINGO! THERE ARE BIGGER PLAYERS MOVING THE PIECES IN ANOTHER FALSE FLAG ATTEMPT

[kabumpo]

Thank you for your exceptionally cogent post. I concur completely.

[cartan]

The Left believes that once they crush all remaining attachment to national culture and identity, they can then turn their guns on Islam, having used it to destroy their enemies and having no use for it anymore. They may be in for a surprise in that day.

And Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and Helen Thomas will all vanish under a Burka forever. Which is a bad thing…I suppose…

[Revolting cat!]

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[Navy Patriot]

The Left believes that once they crush all remaining attachment to national culture and identity, they can then turn their guns on Islam, having used it to destroy their enemies and having no use for it anymore. They may be in for a surprise in that day.

The Russian communist supported, democratic socialist government that was reinstalled in Iran by Jimmy Carter's sabotage of the Shah lasted less than two weeks before being replaced by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard.

Carter and his fellow communists were no match for 23 year old Muslims.

[GAB-1955]

Yep, my people either ignored Andy Jackson or were too well connected to be moved.

[Elendur]

Breivik was baptized into the Protestant church by “his own free will,” at age 15.
“I myself am a Protestant and baptized / confirmed to me by my own free will when I was 15”

...but remember, the MSM CONSTANTLY tells us,
that Muslim terrorists “misunderstand” their own religion.
(even though the Quran clearly says to kill and terrorize unbelievers)

but the MSM doesn’t claim Breivik “misunderstood,
even though i haven’t seen ANY evidence he has attended a church in years.
(and the Bible says to love your enemies, and turn the other cheek)

[GAB-1955]

I think you’re reading too much into this. Someone may try to take advantage, but the machinery of oppression should have been running already if it were a real false flag operation.

[combat_boots]

“The Left believes that once they crush all remaining attachment to national culture and identity, they can then turn their guns on Islam...”

Well said.
Who on the Left appears ready to do that?

The peculiar lemon twist with a touch of bitters in this mix is that the Left wants to ‘recognize’ ‘Palestine’ as, what? Throwing islam a bone? Does the Left really think that the millions of Israelis will simply disappear as a result?

Also, there are moslem CHILDREN who will blow themselves up ‘for their faith.’ The Left believes in nothing but their own self-important egos, which leads directly to Satan.

[SatinDoll]

Thanks to Freeper Garjog for the following - you may find it interesting:

“This is exactly the kind of tactic Al Qaida would think up.” Satin Doll

Garjog: Several factors make me wonder if he was linked to Islamic terror groups after all:

1. Methodology of attack had a two-part Mumbai-like signature characteristic of AQ — Bombing followed by sniper attack.

2. Norway has a Islamic terror problem. Just last year a bombing plot was foiled. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10554523

3. Last week a Radical cleric in custody threaten to kill politicians. http://news.yahoo.com/norway-charges-radical-cleric-death-threats-125824880.html

4. Deception is a stratagem of war. Breivik lied to lure the kids near. Parts of the manifesto are lifted from other documents. Plagiarism is a form of lying. If part is lifted, none may be authentic.

5. In the manifesto he speaks of “contacting investors.” Muslim?

6. AQ has made recruiting “blond, blue eyed” westerners a priority. If they did, they would be expected to make an attack by such a terrorist look like it was inspired by the “right wing”to play into liberal media desire to find examples of “Christian” terrorists. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328967,00.html

7. Breivik could be like Timothy McVeigh who has been linked to AQ. http://www.jaynadavis.com/highlights.html

8. He excuses the “minor sin” of sex with prostitutes because of the “grace” he will gain from being a martyr. That is an Islamic doctrine.

9. AQ has been training westerners at terror camps in Pakistan. The shootings seem to require professional military training.

10. In the manifesto he reveals that his best friend while growing up was a Pakistani Muslim. While he derides Muslim gangs, he could be lying. He may have been converted to Islam as a youth. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.suspect.profile/index.html

11. The Facebook page is in English, he has no friends and was recently posted. Looks like a diversion.

12. The scale of attacks and threats by Islamic terror groups is far greater than any other threat. More than 99 percent of attacks have been by Muslims. So, at first glance we have a 99 percent chance to suspect jihad here as well.

[Steel Wolf]

This list tries very hard to make the facts fit the conclusion. Like the logical plot-discovery sequence from Black Dynamite, if you happened to have seen that.

When in doubt, go with Occam's Razor. The most likely explanation is that this guy is what he appears to be. A very ardent pro-Norwegian cultural fanatic, who studied Islamic extremism enough to know they were winning, and who decided to turn their own tactics against them.

European culture is dying. It stands to reason that at some point, people this desperate will start appearing more and more. If his tactics look like Islamic extremists, well, guess what? They're the ones who have been working on asymmetric warfare for years. If you're one man looking to go out in a blaze of glory for insert-your-cause-here, then, that would be the place to read up on how it's done.

It would be lovely to think that our side is always chivalrous, tough and angelic, and the other guys are not just evil, but cleverly mastermindedly behind-every-dark-deed evil, but real life is more complicated than that.