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Issa staffer: Gunrunner investigation points much higher than ATF director
Daily Caller ^ | 6/21/11 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 06/21/2011 10:51:38 AM PDT by markomalley

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21 posted on 06/21/2011 11:34:50 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: markomalley

Personally I believe this is a result of Obama’s self stated desire to build a domestic force equal to our military. I think he’s arming and equipping Mexican drug cartels with the goal of using them as his domestic armed force. I can’t believe the level of mistrust that I have for this administration that even makes me think of things like this. Obama has surrounded himself with the most corrupt and vile politicians in America and his assault on our constitution and American society must be stopped at all costs. He is evil to the core.


22 posted on 06/21/2011 11:50:13 AM PDT by lwoodham
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To: markomalley

Melson needs to be offered a deal for a light sentence in exchange for testimony against Holder and Obama.


23 posted on 06/21/2011 11:54:25 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: two23

Yes and Issa is Eliot Ness.


24 posted on 06/21/2011 11:55:10 AM PDT by lwoodham
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To: Deb
I have bashed Judicial Watch but the money quote of the post is Fitton's:

“I think another major part of this story is that the narrative of the Obama administration and the ATF is that, ‘wouldn’t it be great if we could tie guns, as part of our anti-gun agenda, to the Mexican civil war, as opposed to, you know, our lack of enforcement of the drug laws or failure to protect the borders.’”

That is what is suspect is the true nature of this issue -- an orchestrated attempt by the administration to impact the Second Amendment by showing that our normal sale of firearms impacts another nation in a way that gets that nation, the UN and treaty obligations involved to hamstring the 2nd.

They arranged for the claim to be made last year by the Mexican President, and during and since they have been running this program to bring about on the ground something they can later verify to use as the excuse to slap massive restraints on the Second Amendment and also sue and kill weapons manufacturers.

They have plainly told their supporters in this effort, "don't worry, we are working behind the scenes." This, in part, is what they have been "working"

25 posted on 06/21/2011 12:01:15 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: lwoodham
He is evil to the core.

I'll agree with that statement. But I actually think that the real purpose of sending all of those arms down into Mexico was part of an overall plan to severely diminish (or completely destroy) 2nd Amendment rights. After there hyperbolic shouting about how "90% of illegal guns in Mexico originate in the US" was shown to be bogus (I think that FNC may actually have done at least one story to debunk that), they came up with a plan to make the "facts" fit their narrative.

They didn't foresee 2 events: 1). That some ATF agents would be horrified at what they were witnessing and decided to become whistle-blowers. 2). That two rifles from this cache would appear at the slaying site of a US border agent in the US. I think their "plan" was to have as many as possible of these weapons turn up in Mexico at crime scenes over time. Since they knew the serial numbers of the arms that were being sent down there, they could offer "proof" of the US being the source of these "illegal" weapons. Just my thoughts from the first time I got wind of this months ago.

As far as that "domestic force equal to our military," I'd look to the TSA as the possible roots of that unConstitutional travesty.

TSA Now Storming Public Places 8,000 Times a Year

26 posted on 06/21/2011 12:12:44 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: markomalley

Human Events has a good article about the Administration’s apparent motives:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=44246


27 posted on 06/21/2011 12:13:30 PM PDT by KC Burke
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To: KC Burke

What a tangled web he weaves...
When Omoslem practices to deceive.


28 posted on 06/21/2011 12:24:52 PM PDT by LyinLibs (All moslems are somewhere on the killing-you spectrum)
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To: markomalley

My two cents: The names that I’m waiting to hear are Eric Holder and Valerie Jarrett. Probably not Obama as the only thing he actually runs is his mouth (with apologies to Marion Berry).


29 posted on 06/21/2011 12:30:32 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now!)
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To: markomalley

So the question becomes, once Melson is forced to resign over this, will he sing like a canary to the Congress??

There is no possible way that an acting BATFE Director makes an operation like this one happen all my himself. No way, no how. This had to have been authorized at the highest levels of DOJ, if not the State Department itself. That means Premier Hussein himself knew about it too, and the lies appear to go clear to the White House.

Someone bet me a burger that Tom Donilon is in this up to his eyeballs....remember that Gates warned us about him....


30 posted on 06/21/2011 12:30:58 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Your what hurts??)
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To: KC Burke
If we remember the old "Bottom-up, top-down, inside-out" approach of these evil monsters, it all makes sense. "UN Small Arms treaty" from the top, some provoked, setup "atrocities" from the bottom, and "illegal US guns pouring into a neighboring country" is the inside-out. I think we should always keep that formula in mind when analyzing "events" as they continue to unfold.

(I recall watching GB show a video with Van Jones describing that charming approach.)

31 posted on 06/21/2011 12:33:01 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: markomalley
Isn't it about time for the BATFE to torch a "compound" full of women and children to distract attention from their troubles?
32 posted on 06/21/2011 12:37:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: Bean Counter
Someone bet me a burger that Tom Donilon is in this up to his eyeballs....remember that Gates warned us about him....

I think Gates pulled out just about when the house of cards is about to fall.

33 posted on 06/21/2011 12:42:44 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: markomalley
I am certain the mainstream media will pick up this story and run with it.......oh look, a squirrel with a fluffy tail!


34 posted on 06/21/2011 1:00:45 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

A)merican
T)errorist
F)ederation

Just another one of Øbama’s unions.


35 posted on 06/21/2011 1:32:20 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: markomalley
“I think another major part of this story is that the narrative of the Obama administration and the ATF is that, ‘wouldn’t it be great if we could tie guns, as part of our anti-gun agenda, to the Mexican civil war, as opposed to, you know, our lack of enforcement of the drug laws or failure to protect the borders.’”

IMHO, the Obama justice department found a way to provide weapons, under cover of law, to a cartel in exchange for a big pay-off. Follow the money.............

36 posted on 06/21/2011 1:32:27 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: Free America52

This video needs to go viral

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHkaRU9EoVM&feature=player_embedded


37 posted on 06/21/2011 2:00:19 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: markomalley

How much do you want to bet the ATF was funding the buyers? Why else would cartels pay top$$ for semi-autos when the real thing is available for less $$?


38 posted on 06/21/2011 2:01:05 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: AFreeBird

The Founding Fathers full well knew of the dangers of domestic insurrection and the potential of the gubamint goin’ wild.. It’s not like forces weren’t against them before they even came into being in this hemisphere.

They had faith that there would be those who saw thru the mist of words and rise to defend and fight to reclaim and preserve those same liberties and freedoms that this nation once enjoyed, that we may survive as a free people.

Man, when the bottom drops out of this rotting liberal basket, it ain’t gonna pretty.. but it shouldn’t be ‘unexpected’ either as things stand today.

Giddyup!


39 posted on 06/21/2011 2:02:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: markomalley

Obama joined in the Mexican claim that American gun sales were responsible for drug related gun violence in Mexico.

Maybe they thought they needed to help produce the evidence themselves; so Obama could support his claims; so with increased cross-border sales, his ATF crony heads helped engineer??? is that what we’re seeing.


40 posted on 06/21/2011 2:50:44 PM PDT by Wuli
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