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1 posted on 05/25/2011 7:15:54 AM PDT by Scythian
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What? Are you anti-business? :)


2 posted on 05/25/2011 7:18:36 AM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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Going back to basic questions: What is the proven effect of this substance on humans?


4 posted on 05/25/2011 7:24:51 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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Calling it a toxin does not necessarily mean it is toxic to humans. There are hundreds of detectable trace chemicals in the human body that weren’t there in prehistoric time. The problem with these stories is the announcement of “detection” of this or that also ads the veiled implication that some kind of damage is being caused by the chemical’s presence. In most cases the chemical simply passes through unnoticed. That we can sample blood and detect it doesn’t change anything.

But who needs logic when a good emotional scare will drum up a new cause.


5 posted on 05/25/2011 7:25:50 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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Questions:

1. Where does one procure Bt?
2. Is it naturally occurring?
3. Do any plants produce Bt?
4. If one were to grow their own food, would that eliminate all Bt in that food?
5. What are the names of the “researchers,” and are they unbiased in their research?


7 posted on 05/25/2011 7:31:32 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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SO, is there a problem? How many thousands of chemicals make their way into the blood every day? It isn’t a problem unless it is at a toxic level. We breath carbon monoxide, consume arsenic, and cyanide compounds on a daily basis. Please understand, we live in a toxic world, “the dose makes the toxin.” Paracelsus

Don’t buy the anti-biotech rubbish—lawyers seeking money is what it is mostly about.


9 posted on 05/25/2011 7:37:04 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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Countdown,,,3,2,1...

“More fear-mongering lies from the anti-business, hippy, commie-pinko, running dogs! And anyway, toxins are healthy and good for you!”


16 posted on 05/25/2011 8:09:55 AM PDT by chessplayer
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Researchers from the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology at the University of Sherbrooke Hospital Centre in Quebec, Can., have proven that Bt toxin, which is used in GM corn and other crops, definitively makes its way into the blood supply, contrary to what Big Bio claims -- and this toxin was found in the bloodstreams of 93 percent of pregnant women tested.

Why anyone eat anything other than Heirloom grown food is completely beyond me. GM corn is widely used for food bases and for food itself.

I recall reading that Monsanto and Dupont and others now have the entire third world "dependant" on growing Genetically Modified (GM) rice that DOES NOT produce viable seed stock. I also recall that all seed stock for rice in India and China must now be GM and must be purchased. I recall reading somewhere or another that these same companies have done the exact same thing with soybeans. There is a claim of "higher yields". But there is obviously, much higher costs. These "costs" may well include the extra costs to health of those who eat GM rice, soybeans and other food staples. If this is true, then in my opinion, it borders on criminal.

17 posted on 05/25/2011 8:11:59 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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Could someone please supply a summary of what effects Bt has on humans (including unborn humans) and at what dosage levels?

I know we are exposed to toxins every day, including toxins manufactured in our own bodies. So I don't have enough information to have even a preliminary opinion on Bt--- as compared to, say, DHMO.

Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)is found in the brain tissue of over 87% of the people who have died of aggressive carcinomas in the past 10 years.

http://tinyurl.com/DHMO-facts

19 posted on 05/25/2011 8:14:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Always drink upstream from the herd.)
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this time blowing a hole in the false claim that a certain genetic pesticide used in the cultivation of genetically-modified (GM) crops does not end up in the human body upon consumption.

The first question to be asked should be: did the industry make a claim that Bt would not end up in the human body after consumption of GMO foods containing Bt?

2. Then it would be good to know what concern of the regulators caused that question to be asked in the first place?

3. And if the industry did incorrectly claim that Bt would not end up in bodies of those who consumed the food products, then where did their research go wrong, and does this call for further review of all the industry research presented in relation to GMO food crops?

This study comes from a hospital in Quebec, not from some fringe organic food advocate.

23 posted on 05/25/2011 8:41:45 AM PDT by Will88
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This serves as an excellent example of the downside to the incredible advances we've made in analytical chemistry. Being able to detect ever smaller amounts of substances has also given us a dramatic increase in the amount of chemicalphobia in the public. These folks at Natural News are chemicalphobes of the highest order.

You can find just about any toxin you want in our urine or blood if you're able to measure for it in parts per trillion. The average American eats 1 1/2 grams of natural pesticides a day which is about 10,000 times more than the amount of artificial pesticides consumed. Pretty scary, eh? Many natural crops contain more pesticides than the ones treated synthetically. Broccoli, cabbage, celery and apples are examples of produce high in natural pesticides.

Celery purchased in a supermarket will contain, on average, about 800 parts per billion of the natural chemical psoralen. Psoralen is used by celery as a natural means of fending off predators and, in high doses, can damage DNA and tissue in humans. Organic celery, grown without the use of synthetic pesticides, has been shown to contain as much as 6,000 parts per billion of psoralen. Potatoes contain solanine which is a naturally occurring toxin used to protect against blight. In humans, solanine can cause paralysis and death. But....but.....it's natural.....

Unfortunately, the chemicalphobes at Natural News (and chemicalphobes in general) never learned a very basic tenet of toxicology, the dosage makes the poison.

This article is just more silly alarmism from people who understand little about chemistry. They act like it is far worse that people obtain trace amounts of Bt from their food rather than consume a bunch of fumonisins from corn not treated with Bt. This kind of idiocy never solves problems; it only causes them.

24 posted on 05/25/2011 8:49:20 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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if it isn’t raised with chemical fertalizers and pestasides I won’t eat it!

Organic is nothing more than throwing shit at it and hoping it grows!


31 posted on 05/25/2011 9:26:02 AM PDT by dalereed
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First it was dihydrogen monoxide and now this.


39 posted on 05/25/2011 9:47:38 AM PDT by N. Theknow (The MSM is to 0bama what the Broom-n-Scoop Detail is to a circus parade.)
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93 percent of unborn babies contaminated with GMO toxins, study finds (Bt)

Uhhhhhhh....what happens AFTER they're born? Does it go away?

48 posted on 05/25/2011 10:52:01 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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The only problem I have with Genetically Modified foods is that certain organizations (mostly Monsanto) have the patents on these products.

And the big problem is that the seeds contained in the produce is not propagatable (if that's even a word).

That means you can't grow your own vegetables from the seeds contained in these foods.

When you combine that with legislationt that increasingly disallows people from growing their own background gardens (why do you think the media makes such a big deal out of MoBama's garden), the result is way too much power in the hands of too few sources.

49 posted on 05/25/2011 10:57:40 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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At least in the article they call it “babies” here, instead of the usual sub-names used to distract.


50 posted on 05/25/2011 11:01:52 AM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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Placemakr.


63 posted on 05/25/2011 11:15:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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