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Waxman, Frank: To Hell with the Constitution!
MensNewsDaily.com ^ | January 4, 2011 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 01/04/2011 7:11:56 AM PST by RogerFGay

The House Republican majority has said it will require members to cite the specific authority for any bill they introduce.
House Democrats are lining up to ridicule a closely related rule that the Republican majority has said it will adopt, requiring members to cite the specific constitutional authority for any bill they introduce. "It's an air kiss they're blowing to the tea party," says Barney Frank, outgoing chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. Henry Waxman, outgoing chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, all but dismissed any role for Congress in assessing the constitutionality of its actions: "Whether it is constitutional or not is going to be whether the Supreme Court says it is."
This isn't the first time I've heard politicians claim that they have no practical allegiance to the Constitution. Members of both parties have been ridiculing citizens for raising Constitutional concerns for decades. Not my yob, mon!, as if aiming at the obvious ignorance of the common masses.

Perhaps, one might think, too many lawyers have been elected to public office. Their professional relationship to the Constitution is one far different from that which is implied when taking the oath of public office. Protecting and defending the Constitution is a far distant second to protecting and defending a client, even for ethical attorneys. That easily translates into representing special interests, in ways that are unethical, or even illegal for legislators.

We might also keep in mind that lawyers are generally less educated than the average college graduate. They often finish only two years in general studies – the equivalent of an associate degree – before entering law school to become familiar with the laws and legal procedures of their respective states. And those two years might be spent studying political history rather than taking courses in math, engineering and science; which might otherwise give them some basic background in logic, system development, maintenance, and stability.

Waxman and Frank are both enthusiastic extremists; generally a clear sign of lower intellectual ability. That something is Constitutional merely because someone says it is lacks any understanding of the concrete role and importance of the document. It's an open door to completely arbitrary, irresponsible, and destructive behavior while in office. Whether or not they both wish to plead stupidity, Waxman's assessment is easily translated to “we'll do whatever we can get away with.” A child would know that.

As a practical matter, it's easy to see they can get away with a lot, especially when bills are constantly rammed through without enough time to read, consider and debate. Due to limitations on the amount of work a nine justices can handle, the Court typically hears only between 60-75 oral arguments per year and reviews approximately another 50-60 more cases on paper. This represents a mere 1-2% of the cases submitted on appeal.

Federal courts are absolutely politically biased and clear examples of corruption exist; the worst displayed for decades in the Ninth Circuit. (Western United States) Cases are heard year in and year out, with a continuous steady erosion of Constitutional integrity in the administration of law. Enacting piles of unconstitutional legislation each year ensures that the system will eventually collapse.

And, it is now generally understood that it has.

Another view: Congress Rediscovers the Constitution



TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: constitution; frank; fubf; waxman
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1 posted on 01/04/2011 7:11:58 AM PST by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

Looks like Issa and his staff need at least a thousand hardened investigators 24/7 to clean up the corruption in DC.


2 posted on 01/04/2011 7:14:01 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: RogerFGay

So, Barney Frank is asserting that our country is an oligarchy ruled by 9 appointed judges?

The Constitution is anathema to the left, as is any fixed set of rules.

Fixed rules do not allow them to apply the law unequally,
and applying law unequally is where they derive their power.


3 posted on 01/04/2011 7:16:38 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Why are we reading cr*p from outgoing chairmen? These people are OVER!


4 posted on 01/04/2011 7:18:09 AM PST by muawiyah (Hey,)
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To: RogerFGay
"It's an air kiss they're blowing to the tea party," says Barney Frank

Ordinarily I'd tell Bwarney Fwank to kiss my tushee, but I'm afraid he'd like it too much.

5 posted on 01/04/2011 7:18:37 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I pray that Issa isn’t one of them and is up to the job. Lady Liberty is on life support.


6 posted on 01/04/2011 7:19:26 AM PST by GBA (Not on our watch!)
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To: RogerFGay

You can say what you want about Barney Frank but when he starts talking about blowing no one should dispute his expertise.


7 posted on 01/04/2011 7:21:39 AM PST by hflynn
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To: muawiyah
Apparently Boehner thinks that they aren't over quite yet and is ready to share power with the losers.
8 posted on 01/04/2011 7:21:47 AM PST by JPG (YES SHE CAN!)
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To: RogerFGay

Twilight Zone: "Nightmare at 20,000 Feet"


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9 posted on 01/04/2011 7:23:15 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: RogerFGay

The only authority they have is what is granted to them by virtue of being codified in the Constitution. They’ve made themselves irrelevant.


10 posted on 01/04/2011 7:24:28 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: muawiyah
If you think this fight is over, you are deluding yourself.
We haven't gotten to the good stuff yet.
The Dims are not going to give up that easily. They want their power back and they will use any means to get it.
Listen to the words. Damn the Constitution is a mantra and they are serious about it.
They don't need it, they don't want it and they will not abide by it.
This is not a bunch of whiny bi**hes (well, ok it is)talking idly about the Constitution.
Take their words as a warning to everyone that believes in this country and it's founding.
If we resort to complacency and don't heed this warning, We The People are OVER!
They would rather burn it and move on to tyranny.
11 posted on 01/04/2011 7:24:31 AM PST by TexasPatriot1 ("Tyranny is defined as that which legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry" Jefferson)
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To: JPG

Uh, where did you get that idea?


12 posted on 01/04/2011 7:26:03 AM PST by muawiyah (Hey,)
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To: RogerFGay

“We might also keep in mind that lawyers are generally less educated than the average college graduate. They often finish only two years in general studies – the equivalent of an associate degree – before entering law school to become familiar with the laws and legal procedures of their respective states.”

You need to correct this. I don’t know of any accredited law school that takes students after 2 years of college. If any do, it is exceptionally rare. Every lawyer I know has at least 7 years of higher education - a four year college degree and a three year law degree. Moreover, all laws schools teach more than their own state’s law. In fact, many law schools hardly teach that at all because a large number, if not most, of the graduates will be practicing in other jurisdictions. Federal law also comprises a large part of the curriculum.

There are many, many legitimate criticisms of lawyers, and especially law schools. This, however, isn’t among them.


13 posted on 01/04/2011 7:27:03 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: RogerFGay

“Waxman and Frank are both enthusiastic extremists; generally a clear sign of lower intellectual ability.”

My discerning guess is that neither Frank nor Waxman have any intimate relationship with God. This puts me in mind of something the great GK Chesterton said, “The first effect of not believing in God, is that you lose your common sense.”


14 posted on 01/04/2011 7:28:24 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: RogerFGay

Sounds treasonous to me. But then treason isn’t punished anymore.

We, American citizens, are leaving the traitors at the helm to steal our freedom.

Our kids are going to live a lousy existence.


15 posted on 01/04/2011 7:28:31 AM PST by dforest
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To: RogerFGay
"Whether it is constitutional or not is going to be whether the Supreme Court says it is."

Really, Barney. Say, how does that oath go that you took at the beginning of your career as a Congresshole?

Maybe it's time the whole Congress took the oath en masse at the beginning of every session.

16 posted on 01/04/2011 7:29:17 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ETL

Is Waxman Bat Boy’s real father? The resemblance is astounding.


17 posted on 01/04/2011 7:36:19 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Texas Eagle

“Whether it is constitutional or not is going to be whether the Supreme Court says it is.”

This may actually end up with the gun carrying citizens not the court.


18 posted on 01/04/2011 7:36:19 AM PST by jimpick
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Looks like Issa and his staff need at least a thousand hardened investigators 24/7 to clean up the corruption in DC.

I'm thinking it's going to take a nuke.
19 posted on 01/04/2011 7:37:21 AM PST by jrg
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To: RogerFGay
Sounds like a clear breach of an oath to me. To get to be a Congress person you must swear to defend the Constitition and have loyalty to same...obvously Frank and Waxman don't, and should be impeached and charged with treason.

I still think Frank should be in prison with his buddy Dodd for the Freddie/Fanny thing and Waxman should have his nose hairs waxed.

mortgagate
20 posted on 01/04/2011 7:37:58 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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