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The Fed is basically trying to delay an economic reckoning -- thereby making the inevitable pain even more painful than it would otherwise be.

China is a scapegoat for what we should be doing to clean up our own mess.

1 posted on 11/21/2010 9:39:18 AM PST by deniss60
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To: deniss60

ping


2 posted on 11/21/2010 9:46:21 AM PST by unkus
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Actually, my scenario is that as the $600 billion slides in, and the dollar starts to slide against the Euro...Soros appears in Rome, London, Paris and Frankfurt to bet on the currency futures, and whatever magic number that the US thought that they could safely slide to....whips right by and they continue right on down...maybe $1.75 per Euro.

Folks start to get worried, and some others jump on the Soros bandwagon to bet on the dollar sliding more. Then around $2 per Euro...the US has to jump in with a trillon to save the dollar, but it’s too late.

Soros walks away with $100 billion (maybe even $200 billion), and the US economy by December of 2011 is totally destroyed. Oh, and by the way...all of the economic events to help collapse the banks and create all of this banking disaster? It’s been in the works for fifteen years by Soros and his team. Even the choice of the Fed chairman, the education of Obama at Harvard, and the handling of the Senate Banking Committee....all planned by Soros.

We’ll all have a laugh in the spring of 2012 as we have worthless 401K accounts and wonder how we pay for our house.


3 posted on 11/21/2010 9:52:13 AM PST by pepsionice
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Bingo. Love this AFP headline: "US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner leaped to the defense of the Federal Reserve, warning against attacks on the central bank which would erode US credibility."

Credibility? Who do these idiots think they're fooling? Obama's remaining supporters?
4 posted on 11/21/2010 9:53:47 AM PST by dr_who
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What the Federal Reserve is up to, and how we got here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTUY16CkS-k

Quantitative Easing Explained


5 posted on 11/21/2010 10:06:16 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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” Generating economic growth the old fashioned way — by earning it and improving our business climate — is becoming one of the few options left. “

Since this option depends on a significant number of policymakers developing sense *and* gonads, the far more likely option will be to continue kicking the can down the road, in hopes that they will be retired and holed up in their gated, guarded, communities - before they run out of road....


7 posted on 11/21/2010 10:14:33 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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put me down as the sole vote in favor of QE.


9 posted on 11/21/2010 10:25:24 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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Bernanke is wrong only if you assume the he is trying to help the economy. It makes much more sense if he is trying to hurt the economy.


11 posted on 11/21/2010 10:58:31 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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So Bernanke and the Fed trying to do something constructive for the economy (to help businesses and consumers “refi” at lower rates while they can last) with whatever few tools left in the Fed’s disposal is called wrong because “it leaves U.S. policymakers off the hook and takes their focus further away from the free-market reforms within their control to make”?

That’s a twisted “cause and effect” logic. Somebody is trying to take the focus off the politicians and push it onto Bernanke and the Fed, but it’s not Bernanke himself who is doing it. Fed’s monetary policy doesn’t usually take the focus off the politicians... it’s the politicians, the “leaders” and people who follow them who made Bernanke, the Fed and QE2 the focus of scorn, to divert attention from their accountability and culpability in the mortgage fiasco and consequent financial meltdown.

If some political “leaders” stopped following Barney Frank’s finger pointing at the direction of the next scapegoat in the making (currently the Fed and Bernanke) and instead kept focusing on the root causes of the Great Recession and incessant government spending, there would not be a focus on the Fed and monetary policy by hoi polloi, who suddenly became “experts” in monetary policy.

It’s a neat trick by politicians to take the people’s attention and focus off of them by finding the latest bogeyman in Bernanke, but why do conservatives and Republicans think it is a good idea to join then and start attacking their natural ally, especially with phony arguments? The “populist” knee-jerk reflex, spurred by Ron Paul and blogs like ZeroHedge, BusinessInsider, MarketInsider etc.?

Having to defend later the wrong actions and statements based on getting the facts and causes and efects wrong and sticking with them in the face of facts being wrong is not a way to educating the people (especially non-ideologs “independents) and is not a winning formula for 2012.

See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2629966/posts?page=23#23 - Bernanke: stop calling it QE! - FR, 2010 November 19

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2629966/posts?page=33#33 - Bernanke: stop calling it QE! - FR, 2010 November 19

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2628909/posts?page=4#4 - 10 Reasons You Should Not Waste Your Money On Film ‘Inside Job’ - FR, 2010 November 17

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2628017/posts?page=20#20 - Weaker Dollar Seen as Unlikely to Cure Joblessness - FR, 2010 November 16

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2626029/posts?page=32#32 - Bernanke’s relationship with GOP deteriorating over Fed decisions - FR, 2010 November 12

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2626029/posts?page=24#24 - Bernanke’s relationship with GOP deteriorating over Fed decisions - FR, 2010 November 12

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2624051/posts?page=22#22 - Fed Policy: Another Wealth Transfer to Wall Street - FR, 2010 November 10

Should not we start getting our attention back from Bernanke and the Fed, and start focusing like a “laser beam” on telling and explaining to people a simple story of GSEs and public-private enterprises and the political “fat cats” who enrich themselves and their friends that run them and the dangers of “political solutions” to non-problems (like “climate change”) and the Congress and Administrations who spend and borrow their citizens’ money “into prosperity”?


12 posted on 11/21/2010 11:14:18 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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THE FOX IS IN THE HENHOUSE....
THE FOX IS IN THE HENHOUSE....
THE FOX IS IN THE HENHOUSE....
THE FOX IS IN THE HENHOUSE....

14 posted on 11/21/2010 11:16:51 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: deniss60
Bernanke knows exactly what he's doing, shoveling money to his friends who get to buy the assets for a collapsed economy for a song.

He needs to be led away in handcuffs to stand in front of a thoroughly-perforated masonry wall.

To quote Curly Howard, "LOOK! Woodpeckers!!!"

15 posted on 11/21/2010 11:39:24 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: deniss60
The Fed is basically trying to delay an economic reckoning -- thereby making the inevitable pain even more painful than it would otherwise be.......China is a scapegoat for what we should be doing to clean up our own mess.

That's exactly right....nice summary.

30 posted on 11/21/2010 4:03:27 PM PST by caww
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