Posted on 07/27/2010 7:18:45 AM PDT by mattstat
Is the Arizona law racist? Not only no, but obviously no. And for the simple logical reason that a law cannot be racist, only people can.
For example, suppose our betters in Congress passed a law stating that self-identified whites shall be granted twenty bonus points on each SAT test. So-called race-norming laws, rules, or mandates like this are quite common.
By which is meant, awarding advantages to individuals because their self-reported race matches certain categories are often institutionalized as lawful. Interestingly, it is still, at least here in the States, “self-identified” and not externally measured race.
But it is the people who created the law, and those that follow or implement it, who are racist, if by racist we mean people with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others, or a person who discriminates based on race (dictionary definitions).
Those who created the bonus-point law must either have believed that non-whites are, for whatever reason, superior to whites in SAT test scores, or they just felt like discriminating against non-whites for reasons of race, or they shared both attitudes.
Two things are of especial note here. First, you cannot have a positive without a negative, for just the same reason you cannot have a one-sided coin. Our race-norming law positively discriminates for whites, and simultaneously negatively discriminates against non-whites. Thus, whether the law is “good” discrimination or “bad” depends on your perspective.
Second, the people who created this law are racist while the people who create another law which awards points to specific whites who suffer identifiable (or provable) specific acts directed against them are not. That’s confusing, so here’s an example.
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How can you say that a law cannot be racist? What would you call the Jim Crow laws or the laws that compelled Jews in Germany to wear a yellow star or not be allowed to go to the movies?
Is Mexican a race?? Me thinks not.
> Is the Arizona Immigration Law Racist?
I musta missed something.
What race is “Illegal Alien”?
As far as I can tell, their ancestry does not differ from that of Legal Immigrants from the same nation.
I surmise that Gramscian deconstruction of the language proceeds apace.
I would call them old, outdated and repudiated laws and rules that expired over 50 years ago, which keep being thrown in the faces of people who had NOT a damn thing to do with any of it....Newbie...go back to DU.
A law can be illegal. Affirmative action, race quotas, race-norming, reparations are all illegal, even if a law is passed making them “legal.”
ALL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION LAWS ARE RACIST. Time to get them off the books.
“What race is “Illegal Alien”?”
As pithy an observation as I’ve seen in this entire conversation about AZ’s law. Well said.
Colonel, USAFR
I’m not a newbie. And if name-calling is your first resort in answering, you must not have much of an argument.
It doesn’t matter how old they are — they were laws, and they were racist, so your statement that laws cannot in of themselves be racist doesn’t hold up.
I agree. But your friend who says that laws cannot be racist clearly doesn’t agree wsith you.
Kabumpo,
Vile laws, to be sure, and created by people who were racist. But the law itself is just paper. Inanimate, non-sentient things cannot be racist.
The people who implement laws can, of course, be racist.
Sacajaweau,
I mean to distinguish between those of white, Spanish decent and those “native to the soil.” This kind of discrimination, incidentally, is also performed by the Mexicans themselves.
“How can you say that a law cannot be racist? What would you call the Jim Crow laws or the laws that compelled Jews in Germany to wear a yellow star or not be allowed to go to the movies?”
Go back over to KOS, American hating Moron.
I’ve never been on KOS in my life, and I find your name-calling pathetic. You clearly have nothing of substance to say in answer to my questions.
I thought that this kind of low-grade personal attack was not permitted on FR.
I am a bad man.. a sinner really..
That doesn't make you a racist.
You have to think that your race is superior to all others....like NASCAR or drag racing.
Are you running for office?
“I thought that this kind of low-grade personal attack was not permitted on FR.”
Dude YOU have the balls to post that?? after posting This Leftist Crapola ????
“How can you say that a law cannot be racist? What would you call the Jim Crow laws or the laws that compelled Jews in Germany to wear a yellow star or not be allowed to go to the movies?”
It is not going to work Jesse!!!!!!!!!!!
Ping!
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