Posted on 06/07/2010 7:54:01 AM PDT by Alaphiah123
No matter how much one says it—It cannot be said enough discussing any subject with a Progressive Liberal is like stepping through an alternate Orwellian world full of doublethink and newspeak. For example, the term Comprehensive Immigrant Reform means Amnesty to Progressives like president Barry Hussein Soetoro. Not because I say it does but because they say it does. (see 1:25min video)
The first thing that one must do when speaking to a Progressive Liberal is reject how they frame the conversation or you will undoubtedly be caught up in an endless loop of attempting to argue reasonability from a frame work that is purely unreasonable.
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Obama can become a legal American citizen with his “reform”
With all due respect, immigration “reform” means shamnesty to a lot of members of the GOP as well. Sadly, this is one of the few issues that both parties fully and completely support.
1)Deport or imprison ALL illegal aliens, including their anchor babies
2) Seal/secure the border with a 30 foot wall, mines, machine guns with interlocking fields of fire, land mines and armed Predator drones,
3)Shoot all who try to cross the border illegally,
4) Revoke the business licenses of those who knowingly hire illegals.
Yes you are right however as shown by John McCain’s presidential run the GOP has far less to gain from this “reform” than Dems.
In addition to that that is why we point out the RINO’s among us. The Party is worth saving the McCains, Grahams, Snowes and Collins are not.
Let’s focus on the Dems they’re the problem. With an influx of Social Conservatives in the GOP we fix the problem.
Amnesty is a sure way to destroy this country. The concept makes no sense - we have nothing to gain from it and everything to lose. We have to keep fighting against it to the best of our ability.
Support for amnesty BY REPUBLICANS, not democrats, is what will kill any hopes for Republican majorities in Novemeber.
In what should be a perfect storm for Republicans, or at least conservatives, conservative voters in the Republican, independent, and democrat ranks are seeing that the Republican establishment and leadership, and “conservative” pundits like Will, Frum, et al. are in league with the democrats for amnesty and open borders. These elitists cannot comprehend that amnesty is a fatal flaw for any wishy-washy candidate or party that will turn off Tea Partyers or just turned off citizens.
The amnesty issue should be one the Republicans are exploiting endlessly in their campaigns. They have 75% of the American public with them if they do. But they won’t, and they will lose as a result.
If you don’t like amnesty, then you can’t vote for a McCain or other Republicans who want to shove it down your bigoted, racist throat (as quoted from Lindsey Graham or Karl Rove). The Republican establishment in their gated communities just can’t understand that.
I agree with you bill!
Amnesty, ok. Natural Born Citizen Obama will never be.
And John McCain.
He's all over the news talkin about the need to secure the border but deliberately skirts the Amnesty issue.
McCain is not to be trusted!
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