[Lloyd227]

"..if you want the forty percent of the libertarian doctrine that is the product of a smoke filled room, convince your State to convince the voters of the other 57 States that it is correct and implement it."

And that makes about as much sense as the rantings Race provides. Welcome to the club

[Little Bill]

I have known Race for a long time and I know his views and justifications for those views. I have been following Libertarianism since 1972 and have met and supported a couple of libertarian pols as spoilers.

Given the choice, Race is closer to my world view than your Utopian vision. Libertarianism is to close to anarchism for me to support it, life needs some structure.