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The myth of Peak Oil
My Blog - Simply Shrug ^ | 2010-MAY-02 | Puget Sound Soldier

Posted on 05/02/2010 11:34:18 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier

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“We are looking at more than four and a half trillion barrels of potentially recoverable oil. That number translates into 140 years of oil at current rates of consumption, or to put it anther way, the world has only consumed about 18 percent of its conventional oil potential. That fact alone should discredit the argument that peak oil is imminent and put our minds at ease concerning future petrol supplies.” - Mr. Abdallah S. Jum'ah, President & Chief Executive Officer, Saudi Aramco, address to OPEC, Vienna, Austria, Sept. 13, 2006.

With proven reserves on the plus side of 1200 billion barrels, and they increase every year, and even tho the USGS has always claimed we're going to run out, so what? The potential reserves far outweigh the proven and in time will become proven reserves themselves. It will be a long time till the end of oil, if ever.
21 posted on 05/02/2010 8:33:55 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Excellent, really excellent and I love the solid sourcing.

I’d been waiting to see where you were going with this as you’d hinted at it before. With this and your deficit reduction plan you need to either run or consult.

Which will it be?


22 posted on 05/03/2010 4:35:10 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Lorianne

Why not just admit you’re wrong? History proves it. We’ve never run out of any natural resource we need. You’re a sharp cookie and grab some good articles, but why continue to “believe” when reality is utterly contradicting you?


23 posted on 05/03/2010 4:38:50 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: RushingWater

Or in other words: Either God will control your life or men will - you choose.

Well done.


24 posted on 05/03/2010 4:41:51 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Not trying to be critical - just trying to learn. Isn’t oil shale very expensive in terms of water resources needed to complete the process, and land needed to store the part of the shale that’s not used? Thanks.


25 posted on 05/03/2010 4:45:03 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 1010RD

Money’s in consulting...;)


26 posted on 05/03/2010 7:53:56 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Water resources, yes it takes a good amount. For land, not really; you capture in situ, which means without actually digging the shale up. You can inject superheated water into the shale and that will liquefy the oil in the shale so you can pump it as normal.

Note that water is, again, a problem because we make it a problem (politics trumping reason and science). Consider that the Columbia River alone has twice the water needed for the daily needs of every single person on the planet! We have an abundance of water, it is just not managed properly; we have more than enough water to recover all this oil without concern if we just had the political willpower to do so.

27 posted on 05/03/2010 7:58:12 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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OK - thanks.


28 posted on 05/03/2010 8:00:39 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

FReepmail me your e-card. ;-]

Great job and good thinking. We need to get a group of us together and buy our own country - Hong Kong 2


29 posted on 05/03/2010 9:21:49 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

You are not even able to read my posts and comprehend them, so why discuss this with you? You want me to debate a strawman that you created. Not going for it.

I have not said the earth will run out of oil.

I have said we will experience Peak CHEAP Oil and it will have very serious consequences for everyone on the planet.


30 posted on 05/03/2010 11:06:12 AM PDT by Lorianne
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You are not even able to read my posts and comprehend them, so why discuss this with you?

Are you suffering from egomania? Your book is open and reads in plain English.

The only way we'll ever run out of CHEAP oil is by law, not by the marketplace or environment.

The industry prices projects for greenlight based on less than $40/bbl long run price. They know a bit more about it than you do.

31 posted on 05/03/2010 4:15:41 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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Rerun: Price is volatile. Also price is not cost

If you want CHEAP oil, look at Venezuela ... where the price is set BY THEIR GOVERNMENT ... something like 12 cents a gallon I think right now.

If you have oil you can do that sort of thing ... or not.

I’ve never argued that governments don’t take their slice or manipulate prices. So why continue to try to argue that point with me?

I agree that the marketplace will set the price ... supply/demand. Peak CHEAP Oil focuses on supply and DEMAND ... not just supply.


32 posted on 05/03/2010 4:36:17 PM PDT by Lorianne
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Lorianne, history has made mincemeat of Malthusians like you.

Oil will be and stay cheap if politicians let it. The demand side will be met by the supply side all the time. Price seeks its own level and although it may change over time oil will be low if the market prevails.

Doomsayers are stopped clocks.


33 posted on 05/03/2010 4:51:02 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I’m not a Malthusian.
Better watch out.


34 posted on 05/03/2010 5:06:13 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Better watch out.

Was that you scratching round my window last night? ;-]

35 posted on 05/04/2010 5:02:21 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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