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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Hey, I agree with you until you bring up a ConCon. What the Founders did was radical. They went to Ammend the Articles of Confederation and completely scraped the government.

Our elected officals have proven they CAN'T/WON'T reject the temptations of power. Look at the 0care bill they just passed. Sure you can say the pubbies will be different, but it was [Snowe? Collins? both?] that helped it out of comittee.

What we need, is a House that will refuse to fund the unconstitutional apparatus of fedgov.... ie DoE, BATF, etc etc.

We don't need amendments for much of the things you mentioned... ie

National Census Enumeration Only Amendment

The census is spelled out; we need to stop the abuse of the census, an amendment is not needed

Abolition of the FED Amendment

The FED is unconstituional; it needs abolished. An amendment is not needed.

Flat Income Tax Amendment,

This is still a regressive tax. How about repeal the 16th Amendment and institute the FairTax.... which is a tax on consumption.

Personal Information and Records Limitation Amendment;

We already are protected under the 4th and 5th Amendments... we need to enforce those rights. How many Amendments do we need to assert our rights? A million of them won't do any good if we refuse to exercise them. further, the 9th and 10th Amendments already garuntees us the protections because it further limits the Fed and States... and speciffically grants us all rights not enumerated.

Corporate Civil Rights Distinct From The Civil Rights Of Living Persons Amendment;

No. Corporations are made up of people. Just because they belong to a body (corporation) does not mean they lose any rights..... SCOTUS just ruled on this regarding McCain-Feingold.

Renunciation of the National Debt Amendment

This would severly handicap us during a war or crisis. The US has always been in debt... even under the Articles. In fact one of the reasons for the ConCon was the fedgov did not have the power to tax; this was essential because the new country had war debt. Part of the reason many southern states did not want to scrap the Articles and sign the Constitution was they recognized the northern states still held Rev War debt, while many of the Southern states had paid theirs off.

We need to get rid of Social Security, Welfare, Food Stamps, WIC, Dept of Ed, and a whole host of other unconstitutional programs. This could be done though a Congressional Comittee of strict constructionists appointed by conservative Congress members. They could then move to defund and remove unconstitutional laws/institutions.

20 posted on 04/11/2010 10:51:00 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Repeat Offender

Short of a military dictatorship, I don’t imagine any elected official, conservative or not, with that much chutzpah. Likewise, the process for making laws is designed to prevent new laws from being passed—but this cuts both ways as being tremendously difficult and time consuming to get rid of bad laws as well.

But the individual States are outside of the system. As such, they would not be “removing their own appendix”, but working as a surgeon works on a patient. In addition, the say of a convention is final, and cannot be appealed through the ponderous federal courts.

This has to be such a certainty, that after the 38 States have ratified the new constitution, that the convention remains seated to insure that the changes are carried out, having the power to relieve and replace federal officials and officers who refuse to obey the new law.

Ironically, this is almost required, because of the Writ of Mandamus argument. That is, what if there is a new constitution, and the president refuses to follow it, and congress refuses to impeach him? In this case, the convention could remove him from office with a simple majority vote, and appoint a replacement who agrees to carry out the will of the States.

The bottom line is that this will never be frivolous. America will have to be in a deep crisis before the States will do this.


22 posted on 04/11/2010 11:42:20 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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