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Robert A. Heinlein on Health Care! (Vanity)
March 24 2010 | GL of Sector 2814

Posted on 03/24/2010 11:57:27 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814

I was just thinking that many quotes from the works of science fiction author Robert A. Heinlein seem to apply to the current political situation. Here are a few choice ones, please feel free to add more!


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: healthcare; heinlein; obamacare
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Every law that was ever written opened up a new way to graft. (Red Planet)

If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for, but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong. If this is too blind for your taste, consult some well-meaning fool (there is always one around) and ask his advice. Then vote the other way. This enables you to be a good citizen (if such is your wish) without spending the enormous amount of time on it that truly intelligent exercise of franchise requires. (Time Enough for Love)

In a mature society, "civil servant" is semantically equal to "civil master." (Time Enough for Love)

Political tags — such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth — are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort. (Time Enough for Love)

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. (The Moon is a Harsh Mistress)

1 posted on 03/24/2010 11:57:28 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814
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To: GL of Sector 2814

TANSTAFL!


2 posted on 03/24/2010 11:59:40 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: sheik yerbouty
TANSTAFL!

I can't believe I didn't list that one to start with, it's so appropriate!

3 posted on 03/25/2010 12:05:12 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's theology is another man's belly laugh - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: sheik yerbouty
TANSTAFL!

You mean TANSTAAFL!

(only because it's cool among sci-fi nerds to focus on trivial details)
4 posted on 03/25/2010 12:09:30 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Considering some of the statements made in favor of BHOcare:

“Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe and not make messes in the house.”


5 posted on 03/25/2010 12:10:57 AM PDT by E Rocc (: Giving economic power to BHO is like giving condoms to Tiger Woods.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
It deserves boldface:

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.

(The Moon is a Harsh Mistress)

6 posted on 03/25/2010 12:12:04 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Wasn’t it his idea, in one of his novels, that only veterans be allowed to vote? That’d be a game-changer!!


7 posted on 03/25/2010 12:28:22 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, the Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Never wrestle with pigs: you both get dirty and the pig likes it.

Always keep your clothing and firearms where you can find them in the dark. (Words to live by!)


8 posted on 03/25/2010 12:35:00 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: sheik yerbouty

No there ain’t.


9 posted on 03/25/2010 12:43:36 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: GL of Sector 2814
There isn't anyway to be safe, just being alive
is deadly dangerous...fatal in the end.

Be wary of strong drink.
It can make you shoot at tax collectors, and miss.

Both by Lazarus Long.

10 posted on 03/25/2010 12:45:26 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; GL of Sector 2814

>>>Wasn’t it his idea, in one of his novels, that only veterans be allowed to vote?

“Starship Troopers”. Remember the Obama quote about having some skin in the game, as it actually applies here. In the time prior to the novel there had been war with total civil breakdown. Local vigilante groups of veterans took charge and restored order. This developed into a general system of government. In an OCS class, the system is explained thus:

“The sovereign franchise has been bestowed by all sorts of rules —place of birth, family of birth, race, sex, property, education, age, religion, et cetera. All these systems worked and none of them well. All were regarded as tyrannical by many, all eventually collapsed or were overthrown.

“Now here are we with still another system . . . and our system works quite well. Many complain but none rebel; personal freedom for all is greatest in history, laws are few, taxes are low, living standards are as
high as productivity permits, crime is at its lowest ebb. Why? Not because our voters are smarter than other people; we’ve disposed of that argument.

Mr. Tammany can you tell us why our system works better than any used by our ancestors?”

I don’t know where Clyde Tammany got his name; I’d take him for a Hindu. He answered, “Uh, I’d venture to guess that it’s because the electors are a small group who know that the decisions are up to them . . . so they study the issues.”

“No guessing, please; this is exact science. And your guess is wrong. The ruling nobles of many another system were a small group fully aware of their grave power. Furthermore, our franchised citizens are not everywhere a small fraction; you know or should know that the percentage of citizens among adults ranges from over eighty per cent on Iskander to less than three per cent in some Terran nations yet government is much the same everywhere.

Nor are the voters picked men; they bring no special wisdom, talent, or training to their sovereign tasks. So what difference is there between our voters and wielders of franchise in the past? We have had enough guesses;
I’ll state the obvious: Under our system every voter and officeholder is a man who has demonstrated through voluntary and difficult service that he places the welfare of the group ahead of personal advantage.

“And that is the one practical difference.”

“He may fail in wisdom, he may lapse in civic virtue. But his average performance is enormously better than that of any other class of rulers in history.”

Major Reid paused to touch the face of an old-fashioned watch, “reading” its hands. “The period is almost over and we have yet to determine the moral reason for our success in governing ourselves. Now continued
success is never a matter of chance. Bear in mind that this is science, not wishful thinking; the universe is what it is, not what we want it to be. To vote is to wield authority; it is the supreme authority from which all other
authority derives — such as mine to make your lives miserable once a day.

Force, if you will! — the franchise is force, naked and raw, the Power of the Rods and the Ax. Whether it is exerted by ten men or by ten billion, political authority is force.”

“But this universe consists of paired dualities. What is the converse of authority? Mr. Rico.”

He had picked one I could answer. “Responsibility, sir.”

“Applause. Both for practical reasons and for mathematically verifiable moral reasons, authority and responsibility must be equal, else a balancing takes place as surely as current `flows between points of unequal
potential. To permit irresponsible authority is to sow disaster; to hold a man responsible for anything he does not control is to behave with blind idiocy. The unlimited democracies were unstable because their citizens were not responsible for the fashion in which they exerted their sovereign authority . . . other than through the tragic logic of history. The unique
`poll tax’ that we must pay was unheard of. No attempt was made to determine whether a voter was socially responsible to the extent of his literally unlimited authority. If he voted the impossible, the disastrous possible happened instead — and responsibility was then forced on him willy-nilly and destroyed both him and his foundationless temple.”

“Superficially, our system is only slightly different; we have democracy unlimited by race, color, creed, birth, wealth, sex, or conviction, and anyone may win sovereign power by a usually short and not
too arduous term of service — nothing more than a light workout to our cave-man ancestors. But that slight difference is one between a system that works, since it is constructed to match the facts, and one that is
inherently unstable. Since sovereign franchise is the ultimate in human authority, we insure that all who wield it accept the ultimate in social responsibility — we require each person who wishes to exert control over the state to wager his own life — and lose it, if need be — to save the life of the state. The maximum responsibility a human can accept is thus equated to the ultimate authority a human can exert. Yin and yang, perfect and equal.”


11 posted on 03/25/2010 1:17:54 AM PDT by tlb
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The veterans-only voters came from either Starship Troopers or Puppet Master. In any event, it came from some installment of the Future History series.

In The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, he also described a legislature where all laws requried a 2/3 majority, and every 3rd year the legislature could only repeal existing laws, with more than 1/3 voting for repeal. I always thought that eas his best idea.

12 posted on 03/25/2010 1:18:29 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Outstanding thanks!


13 posted on 03/25/2010 1:59:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wasn’t it his idea, in one of his novels, that only veterans be allowed to vote?

See Starship Troopers especially Chapter 8 IIRC

And it was not military veterans but veterans of a tour of Federal service that earned the vote franchise.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

14 posted on 03/25/2010 2:27:45 AM PDT by alfa6
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You can’t enslave a free man.
Only person can do that to a man is himself.
No, sir—you can’t enslave a free man.
The most you can do is kill him.

Free Men by Robert A. Heinlein (Short Story)

15 posted on 03/25/2010 5:06:14 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: sheik yerbouty

My idiot cousin thinks that this concept is “Newton’s First Law of Economics” (seriously, I’m not kidding) and means that we all have to pay more taxes because we’ve been getting free stuff from the government and now it’s time to pay up. (Again... not making this part up either.)


16 posted on 03/25/2010 5:12:43 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: tlb

It’s been at least 35 years since I read that. I had forgotten (or didn’t realize at the time) how great Heinlein’s words are.


17 posted on 03/25/2010 5:17:59 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

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18 posted on 03/25/2010 5:25:46 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

This needs to get VIRAL. It is absolutely inspiring.


19 posted on 03/25/2010 5:29:05 AM PDT by Huebolt (Some people are born to be slaves. They register as democrats.)
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To: Talisker

AMEN


20 posted on 03/25/2010 5:30:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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