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How The Coming Union Pension Plan Collapse is Affecting White House Decisions
The Lid/Various ^ | 3/2/2010 | The Lid

Posted on 03/01/2010 9:16:28 PM PST by Shellybenoit

Much of the first 14 months of the Obama administration has been a public "love story" between the White House and the Labor Unions. It seems as if President Obama has been basing many of his decisions on how they help the Union Bosses as opposed to how they help the entire country....

These are just a few ways the President is favoring his friends, the Union leaders over the needs of the Union Rank and file and the American People. The reason for the favorable treatment, the Pension Plans are about to collapse, most of the rank and file may not even know that when they are ready to retire their pensions may not be there.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhounions; obama; pensionplans; pensions; unions; unionvote
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1 posted on 03/01/2010 9:16:28 PM PST by Shellybenoit
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To: Shellybenoit

Dere’ gonna be a lot of P O’d guys out dere.


2 posted on 03/01/2010 9:24:20 PM PST by unkus
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To: Shellybenoit

I was listening to a radio program this weekend about this very subject.

How a quick analysis showed people who paid about 125K into the various california service unions over the course of their 20+ year career, were being promised there would be over 3 million in pension retirement payouts after they retired.

Who the hell is managing those funds, Madoff??? How in the hell can those retirement promises, when many of these funds are drastically underfunded, be sustained before the whole ponzi scheme collapses?


3 posted on 03/01/2010 9:27:25 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: unkus

I didn’t see the teachers’ unions on the list...


4 posted on 03/01/2010 9:51:32 PM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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I didn’t see the teachers’ unions on the list...


We’re in such bad trouble that they will get it, too.


5 posted on 03/01/2010 10:00:09 PM PST by unkus
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

How in the hell can those retirement promises, when many of these funds are drastically underfunded, be sustained before the whole ponzi scheme collapses?


Like I said above, there are going to be a whole lot of mad as hell people.


6 posted on 03/01/2010 10:02:07 PM PST by unkus
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To: unkus

Sounds like they need more Porkulus to fill the coffers or what will the Dims use to run on?

Pray for America’s Freedom


7 posted on 03/01/2010 10:08:41 PM PST by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: unkus
no way no how are these govt/union workers going to lose their sugar daddy pensions and medical benefits...

it just will not happen...

while the poor little sisters got shoved into the Pension Board greatly reduced pensions, these prized workers will get close to what they were "promised" and it will just be another check written by the taxpayer...

can someone please tell me if there is ever an end to this spending?...I mean, they can just keep printing money...

8 posted on 03/01/2010 10:24:05 PM PST by cherry
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can someone please tell me if there is ever an end to this spending?...I mean, they can just keep printing money...


When it all collapses they will slow down the printing...a little bit.


9 posted on 03/01/2010 10:27:14 PM PST by unkus
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To: cherry

if people think private pensions are the problem, then they better go hide under the kitchen table because the public pension system is 10 times worse....


10 posted on 03/01/2010 10:28:14 PM PST by cherry
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To: unkus

Union thug/mobster bosses and Dems looted the coffers.


11 posted on 03/01/2010 10:34:24 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Shellybenoit

Run Hillary Run


12 posted on 03/01/2010 10:36:06 PM PST by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: Frantzie

Of course they did.


13 posted on 03/01/2010 10:41:35 PM PST by unkus
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To: political1

Run Hillary Run


Hitlery will step down from Sec. State at the worst time for 0bama. The Clintons hate him.


14 posted on 03/01/2010 10:43:01 PM PST by unkus
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To: unkus

I presently am in possession of a 5 billion dollar bill...from Zimbabwe. What do you want to bet, we have some of those printed right here in the good ole USSA. (NOT a typo)


15 posted on 03/01/2010 11:33:12 PM PST by Semperfiwife (I, my children and my grandchildren are NOT Obama's ATM!!!!)
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To: unkus

Yes they do. Just like the Kennedy’s hated Carter


16 posted on 03/01/2010 11:33:51 PM PST by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: Semperfiwife

I wouldn”t bet against you.


17 posted on 03/01/2010 11:37:42 PM PST by unkus
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To: Shellybenoit; All

Excuse me for my shameless display of schadenfreude, but I noticed THIS from the story:

Should these pension plans collapse, its curtains for the Union Leaders and it would not be the best recruiting tool for the labor movement in general.

How bad off are the union pension plans? The best single indicator of a plan’s financial health is its Funding Percentage. A fully funded plan will have a funding percentage of 100%. A plan is underfunded when the percentage is below 100%. The lower the percentage, the greater the risk that benefits will not be available when they come due.

According to the Pension Protection Act of 2006 multi-employer (plans set through unions and company sponsors) plans are evaluated via their funding levels. To ensure retiree benefits are protected, when a multiemployer plan falls below certain funding levels, stronger funding requirements become effective under provisions of the Pension Protection Act of 2006. Plans whose funding levels are below 80% are referred to as “endangered,” while those below 65% are referred to as “critical.”

A select few on the list:

SEIU National Industry Pension Fund — 65.00%
NYS Teamsters Conf P&R Fund — 51.40%
Teamsters Trust of Philadelphia & Vicinity — 48.50%
New England Teamsters & Trucking Pension — 40.50%
FELRA and UFCW Pension Fund — 39.80%

18 posted on 03/01/2010 11:50:16 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Shellybenoit

Defined contribution plans (401k, IRA) MAY fail.
Defined benefit plans, in the long run, WILL fail.
You cannot guarantee the future, the rosier, the less so.


19 posted on 03/02/2010 2:32:34 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Shellybenoit

That’s why they’re coming after our IRA’s. Talk about a ponsi scheme.


20 posted on 03/02/2010 2:33:34 AM PST by bronxville
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