Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Political Bridge is Washed Out, But Democrats are Stoking the Locomotive as to Abyss
Bluegrass Pundit ^ | Saturday, February 27, 2010 | Bluegrass Pundit

Posted on 02/27/2010 3:15:11 PM PST by Askwhy5times

Congress' approval is down to 10%. President Obama's approval is down to 43% of voters, Republicans are ahead 9 points in a generic congressional ballot and voters are overwhelmingly rejecting Obamacare. President Obama and Democrats don't care. They are signaling they are willing to go over the abyss to socialize health care and takeover one sixth of the US economy, even if they pay a heavy price at the polls.

(Excerpt) Read more at bluegrasspundit.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: democrats; healthcare; reform
Are democrats willing to pay the price at the polls to pass Obamacare?
1 posted on 02/27/2010 3:15:12 PM PST by Askwhy5times
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Askwhy5times

Heads they’re dumb.
Tails they’re evil.


2 posted on 02/27/2010 3:22:57 PM PST by lurk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Askwhy5times

Assuming this thing goes through, what does it take in the next session of congress to undo it?


3 posted on 02/27/2010 3:29:16 PM PST by wendy1946
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wendy1946

The next congress would have to pass a repeal with a 2/3 margin so they could override the inevitable veto.


4 posted on 02/27/2010 3:31:01 PM PST by MediaMole
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: MediaMole

That’s the problem...

For all this talk of repealing legislation, streamlining the U.S. code etc? It never happens.

Once something is passed, it’s passed.

Take a look at the tax on phone bills to pay for the Spanish American war. It took nearly 100 years for that temporary tax to be ended.


5 posted on 02/27/2010 3:43:09 PM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Askwhy5times

Pelosi might be having trouble getting the votes.


6 posted on 02/27/2010 3:47:29 PM PST by muleskinner ("You know the Germans always make good stuff')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wendy1946

“Assuming this thing goes through, what does it take in the next session of congress to undo it?”

Lots of Senators. We won’t have that many.

But more fundamentally, we don’t want to spend political capital in that fight. Let’s win now. Then we can focus on shutting down the “stimulus” bill for its final eight years and eight trillion dollars.


7 posted on 02/27/2010 3:49:03 PM PST by ModelBreaker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: MediaMole

As a stop-gap, they could refuse to fund ANY program or department supporting it. . .


8 posted on 02/27/2010 4:57:00 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: wendy1946

“Assuming this thing goes through, what does it take in the next session of congress to undo it?”

1) They can undo parts of it by attaching legislation to other bills that the Dems and BO really want enacted.

2) They can de-fund major pieces of it in spending bills, for example, refusing to fund the creation of the dozens of new federal agencies.

Most of the effective work would have to be done by the House, who initiates spending bills.


9 posted on 02/27/2010 5:49:30 PM PST by webstersII
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Askwhy5times
Are democrats willing to pay the price at the polls to pass Obamacare?

Yes! They are looking at the long term. They want to transform the health care industry into a union megalopolis! They are in such a hurry to get a bill passed, because they want time to put the plan in motion before they get voted out.

I wish Fox would do a documentary investigating the union benefits written into the Dems health care bill.

I suspect that the bill is written with a lot of "instantaneous" perks for unions that can never be pulled back. There is that $10 billion written in for "reinsurance". But, I suspect that they have written in all kinds of labor clauses that will turn the health care industry into one big union.

If the bill passes and unions are allowed to usurp hospitals, doctors, etc., they will move very fast - get it done by the end of the year. That is why the hurry - to give the unions time to get in place before the new Congress can be seated. Once they have the union label on the industry, removing it will be almost impossible.

Ok! Am I just paranoid? I will admit to being a "union-ophobic" and I won't apologize for that!

10 posted on 02/28/2010 3:45:05 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it's ok to call me "ma'am"!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Askwhy5times
Are democrats willing to pay the price at the polls to pass Obamacare?

Yes! They are looking at the long term. They want to transform the health care industry into a union megalopolis! They are in such a hurry to get a bill passed, because they want time to put the plan in motion before they get voted out.

I wish Fox would do a documentary investigating the union benefits written into the Dems health care bill.

I suspect that the bill is written with a lot of "instantaneous" perks for unions that can never be pulled back. There is that $10 billion written in for "reinsurance". But, I suspect that they have written in all kinds of labor clauses that will turn the health care industry into one big union.

If the bill passes and unions are allowed to usurp hospitals, doctors, etc., they will move very fast - get it done by the end of the year. That is why the hurry - to give the unions time to get in place before the new Congress can be seated. Once they have the union label on the industry, removing it will be almost impossible.

Ok! Am I just paranoid? I will admit to being a "union-ophobic" and I won't apologize for that!

11 posted on 02/28/2010 3:45:47 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it's ok to call me "ma'am"!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: webstersII; All
2) They can de-fund major pieces of it in spending bills, for example, refusing to fund the creation of the dozens of new federal agencies.

Good idea. Notice how many holes there are in the border fence that congress authorized years ago?

And of course 3) Throw as many legal challenges as possible

12 posted on 02/28/2010 7:35:54 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Askwhy5times
The Bill won't pass.

If it could have been passed, it would have done so in the House.

It is the abortion funding issue that is killing it.

Nothing the Senate does is going to change that.

13 posted on 03/01/2010 11:46:43 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson