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Are Socialism/Statism and Global Warming Religion Forms of Sado-Masochism?
Anarchy Deluxe ^ | 11/28/2009 | Michael Nichols

Posted on 11/28/2009 5:16:49 PM PST by Anarchydeluxe

Even in the indoctrination of my university experience, I have always sensed that there was and is something wrong with the socialist/statist form of charity, which is illustrated ironically in the picture below:

Although the picture is comical, it is also deadly serious, for this is exactly what statist charity in essence represents. In the name of some Robin Hood sort of politics, the state robs the productive members of society, destroys wealth, and then has the audacity to call it "charity" or redistributive politics. If you disagree with such a system (I vehemently do), you are labeled as a cold-hearted Nazi and may even find yourself in prison. I have never understood what could possibly lead someone to believe that such a system of plunder and outright theft is warm-hearted or voluntary.

After having read Erich Fromm's Escape from Freedom, it is much clearer to me now where such a belief might originate. Fromm had an inkling of what could be going on psychologically in those who claim to be "spreading the wealth" for the good of the poor. There is a particular type of sadism that is separate from the one that wishes to inflict pain on others. This other kind can be characterized by a wish to help others. At first glance, such a concept seems contradictory. One type of sadism seeks to inflict pain; the other aims at helping others. However, if one thinks about what sadism represents (the desire or need to control others in a destructive or manipulative manner), then both sorts of sadism fit together. Someone under the influence of the positive type of sadism doesn't seek to help others out of any true feeling of charity, sympathy, or empathy, but out of a need to feel superior to the one being helped.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: global; socialism; statism; warming

1 posted on 11/28/2009 5:16:50 PM PST by Anarchydeluxe
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To: Anarchydeluxe
The Secret to the Suicidal Liberal Mind

At their core, they don't want their culture or society to prosper.

2 posted on 11/28/2009 5:22:03 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Anarchydeluxe
Not Rommney Care...Rommney beaten.

Interesting take. We used to call these people do gooders and crackpots. Now we call them Senators and Presidents. To see the madness all one has to do is look at congress.

3 posted on 11/28/2009 5:26:18 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Anarchydeluxe

This well explains the “calling” so many feel when they decide to “spread the gospel.”


4 posted on 11/28/2009 5:46:25 PM PST by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Anarchydeluxe
In the name of some Robin Hood sort of politics, the state robs the productive members of society, destroys wealth, and then has the audacity to call it "charity" or redistributive politics

That's not what Robin Hood did.

5 posted on 11/28/2009 5:57:23 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. - Horace Walpole)
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To: Anarchydeluxe

It is the same progression that has gone on for years, starting with the zero population growth and back to peasant agendas of the 1960’s. Don’t do stuff for yourself - I mean, take a look at the black community, and the non-immigrant illegal aliens. Two groups that used to be hard working, who are instead sitting on their arses.

Add in our youth who aren’t leaving home, because they’ve been told every step of the way that they’ll destroy the planet. Our reduced breeding that is putting the first world far behind the rest in population growth from within.

By destroying the largest economies, that of Europe, Japan and the United States, they are reducing the standard of living for everyone.

Does anyone remember the grand plans spoken of 30 years ago? Of turning the Sahara back into a swath of green? Of ending world hunger by taming huge rivers, and plowing the desert?

We have the ability to turn sea water into fresh, tap deep aquifiers that no one imagined, to even tame icebergs. A gigantic ice shelf calving would have been seen as an opportunity, now it’s a horror. We are the earth’s enemies. We walked on the moon, and then, just gave up. Sure, there were some bright spots - the internet for one, but even that become little more than one more media channel.

What we need is vision once again. The manifest destiny that powered our economic engine, that placed our economy into the powerhouse that dwarfed the economy of every other nation on the planet.

Global warming, if it existed, shouldn’t have made us fear, us cut back our work, but instead inspired us to new technologies and methods. Instead we build useless windfarms off the coast to slice to pieces migratory flocks of protected species, and participate in mandatory recycling programs like sheep.

Until we get our vision back, until we get out of this fog of doom that liberals spread like the most deadly malaise, we will continue to drift, go from fear to fear, mindless sheep for our liberal masters.


6 posted on 11/28/2009 5:59:37 PM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Anarchydeluxe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSRKWb4LO3w


7 posted on 11/28/2009 6:36:31 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Best explanation defining the motives and masochism of the left (hint: it’s all about avoiding the evil eye)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2367977/posts


8 posted on 11/28/2009 7:07:16 PM PST by ccruse456
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To: Anarchydeluxe

“they seek to become part of a global movement to “fix” that same world.” Wealth redistribution. WE MUST ATONE!


9 posted on 11/28/2009 7:19:32 PM PST by anglian
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To: Anarchydeluxe

The following is an excerpt:

“”...when his nation is attacked, the normally decent, true liberal is at risk for having the following masochistic reaction, particularly under the influence of vocal pseudo-liberals who occupy opinion-making positions (academia, the clergy, the media, etc.):
He will criticize and may even blame his own nation.
He will develop a guilt-ridden or anxious desire to “solve” the problem by being nicer to those who might hate or dislike his country.
He will elaborate various disaster scenarios which he fears will occur if force is used aggressively. Usually the imagined disaster is a variation of “it will only make them hate us even more” or a feared dramatic escalation of violence which we will not have the will or the strength (so the liberal believes) to handle.
He fears that his nation and its leaders (especially if they are not liberals) are stupid and clumsy, and he may insist on replacing a directly aggressive defense with half-hearted responses which actually would be clumsy and ineffective.

This type of masochistic reaction only increases the sadism of the terrorist, leading to new attacks which further increase the masochistic response, and so on in a vicious cycle. The September 11th attacks were the culmination of a decade of such a cycle of sadomasochistic interaction.”
http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2005/08/terrorists-and-their-western.html
There is a need for many on the left to view world events in terms of an ordered sense of “justice” that plays itself out according to our actions.

This is a very nice, neat way to wrap up the universe and it gives them an theoretical path to attain the yearned for Utopiandream. A negative action brings about a negative reaction.

Conversely, if only we would present the world with positive actions, we could all sit around the camp fire and sing songs. - JG


10 posted on 11/28/2009 7:20:15 PM PST by anglian
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To: Anarchydeluxe

For them, the real enemy is too much to contemplate. And they will ally. “Thus the black fascist benefits from the red fascist’s ability to use logical arguments to persuade liberals into immobilizing any nation’s effort to forcefully oppose the black fascist’s aggression.”

Think of Bin Laden’s tapes and Micheal Moore’s Farenheight 9/11, and of other comparisons of leftist and terrorist rhetoric.


11 posted on 11/28/2009 7:32:58 PM PST by anglian
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To: Anarchydeluxe

Interesting, thanks for posting. I have come to the same conclusions as your two main points: 1) liberals want power and control or they want to be controlled; and 2) they like to help others not out of sympathy but of a need to feel superior.

I have been trying to figure out their belief in global warming and you make an interesting point. I had decided that belief in global warming was all about group think and peer pressure and fear of being branded as something other than a true liberal if they were to question conventional wisdom. But, as you mentioned, it probably has something to do with their desire to “fix” the world. And, they probably like the idea of having control over the weather too.


12 posted on 11/28/2009 8:17:43 PM PST by retrogo
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I had decided that belief in global warming was all about group think and peer pressure and fear [...]

Tribes are self-organizing systems, like puddles of water. Water can easily flow in, but it's harder to flow out.

So some scientists began the big lie because they wanted this or that agenda - you'd need to waterboard Mr. Mann to find out exactly. That was step #1. But other scientists got dragged into it also, and I think most did not suspect anything; they had little reason for suspicion at that time. So that was step #2. The tribe was formed. And then, when all the current data failed to fit the theory ... they declared the data wrong. That was a bit overboard, but many of conscripted scientists had to either go with the deception or to bury their careers. And so the lie continued. Since last week several of those lower rank scientists, "foot soldiers," as they define themselves, already published articles that seek to explain their inaction.

13 posted on 11/28/2009 8:33:06 PM PST by Greysard
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