To: RebelTex; allmost; Kevmo; GiovannaNicoletta; Markos33; Salamander; Slings and Arrows; Swordmaker; ..
"Hey, guys, too much overthinking it here. Its simply obvious that redshift is caused by the Palin wave."
Your comment, while no doubt made in jest, just might cut right to the heart of the matter.
While I really hate to quote from Democrats, there are moments when even the
AufgeblasenBlutegelBourgeoisieBurokraten get it right.
Tip O'Neill once said "All politics is local." What the ex-Speaker was trying to point out was the fact that people tend to view things from a purely selfish perspective. Thus political solutions are most popular when they address individual needs and concerns, rather than the general welfare of the country, on a principled basis.
What you might call "The Palin Wave" in astrophysics jokingly attributes anomalies in celestial phenomenon to relatively insignificant earthly events, but in fact you have pointed out our innate tendency to think that our observation of highly local phenomena can somehow generate laws and rules for a universe (more likely a multiverse) that the best of us cannot get our brains wrapped around.
Even our description of the distances in space, such as "parsec" are derived from the extrapolation of relationships in planetary movement that are less than insignificant in terms of the size of just the observable portion of the universe.
Point being, we should
expect to find that the laws we construct to explain our physical surroundings break down once we leave our local environs. To find anything else, would speak to the notion of a Creator God with a very limited imagination - for an infinite being.
WANTED - Schroedinger's Cat, Dead or Alive.
37 posted on
11/03/2009 4:06:16 AM PST by
shibumi
(" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
To: shibumi
38 posted on
11/03/2009 4:12:01 AM PST by
allmost
To: shibumi
"Your comment, while no doubt made in jest, just might cut right to the heart of the matter."
Thank you. Even a blind hog finds an acorn once in a while (even if he doesn't know what to do with it, LOL). I've always enjoyed the science and physics threads, even though I do not have the math or science skills to understand the details. Now if you want to discuss economics, monetary theory/policy, business, insurance, or contract law then I can contribute a wealth of experience, education, and knowledge - but that bores me (too many years in that field).
I'm fascinated by physics and the new things being discovered seemingly every day. For an old example of something that fascinates me, Chaos theory and the Butterfly Effect Principle raise many questions to ponder which I can not answer but enjoy wondering about. The classic question of whether a butterfly flapping its wings in Brazil can cause a tornado in Texas leads me to expand the question. If the answer is affirmative, then could the same butterfly wing flapping have an effect in some far off part of the universe? If not, why not?
If every action has an opposite but equal reaction, then why doesn't the reaction have the same opposite but equal secondary reaction? and tertiary reaction, and so on.
If the action/reaction is true, how do you reconcile that with wave theory when waves die out after some time, especially in fluids?
(I don't really expect answers to what must be basic and mundane questions to most of y'all, LOL.)
There are far more things in Heaven and on Earth than man can imagine or understand, but it is our destiny to try.
56 posted on
11/03/2009 9:40:43 PM PST by
RebelTex
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