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UN To Push For A Gun Control Treaty- Obama Agrees
secondamendmentfreedom.blogspot.com ^ | 11/02/09 | Sasparilla

Posted on 11/02/2009 10:58:29 AM PST by Sasparilla

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To: Califreak

I agree. I remember going into their shop on San Pablo Ave in Albany back in ‘64 and I did think they were a little over the top.

Damn near everything they said then, are now proving to be true.

Progressivism starter with Teddy Roosevelt and has been growing ever since.

Be Ever Vigilant!


41 posted on 11/02/2009 12:35:21 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Sasparilla

It would have to be passed by a two thirds majority in the Senate for it to take effect. Case Closed!!!


42 posted on 11/02/2009 12:39:27 PM PST by PushinTin (NEVER, argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!)
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To: Sasparilla

He may agree but he does not have the power as our Constitution dictates.

I am awaiting him to do something that is unconstitutional so we can drag him out into the open and account for his anti-American activities.


43 posted on 11/02/2009 12:45:14 PM PST by bestintxas
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To: Sasparilla

“Gun control groups are giddy now. A Gun Control Treaty that would be legally binding on US gun owners is in the offing.”

Not only would most in this country NOT feel legally bound/obligated by this law, it’s passage could be the *major* tipping point for massive armed resistance.

How you like me now, UN?


44 posted on 11/02/2009 1:13:41 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Tenacious 1
With all due respect, we're not acting like gun nuts. We're acting like American patriots.

FMCDH

Μολὼν λάβε

45 posted on 11/02/2009 1:14:44 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: IamConservative; mikelets456

“What about when we are under a declared state of emergency? (As we are now.)”

All the rules go out the window and the President has all the say-so.


46 posted on 11/02/2009 1:21:46 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

“What about when we are under a declared state of emergency? (As we are now.)” All the rules go out the window and the President has all the say-so.

Monarchy? Are you sure? It seems that is what our forefather's wanted to avoid

47 posted on 11/02/2009 1:25:44 PM PST by mikelets456
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To: Sasparilla

48 posted on 11/02/2009 1:30:28 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead. Bonus tag line: FAIL 246, Obama 0)
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To: wolfcreek

Interesting how a spark in a sufficiently dense cloud of gasoline fumes does _not_ initiate an explosion. As such, I’m sure a tipping point may occur, but wonder that it may not have the expected consequences.


49 posted on 11/02/2009 1:41:39 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End the coup!)
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To: Tenacious 1
I am skepticle, and hope a healthy bit of skeptism is in order for everyone before we react like gun nuts would be expected to by the left

everything zer0bama does....says Traitor and Seditious...

or we can give up our freedoms and hop right in this POSOTUS’s cattle cars for the ride to the gulag....the choice is yours.

50 posted on 11/02/2009 1:44:17 PM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: wolfcreek

Not true.

“The President of the United States has available certain powers that may be
exercised in the event that the nation is threatened by crisis, exigency, or emergency circumstances (other than natural disasters, war, or near-war situations). Such
powers may be stated explicitly or implied by the Constitution, assumed by the Chief Executive to be permissible constitutionally, or inferred from or specified by statute.
Through legislation, Congress has made a great many delegations of authority in this regard over the past 200 years.
There are, however, limits and restraints upon the President in his exercise of emergency powers. With the exception of the habeas corpus clause, the Constitution
makes no allowance for the suspension of any of its provisions during a national emergency. Disputes over the constitutionality or legality of the exercise of
emergency powers are judicially reviewable. Indeed, both the judiciary and Congress, as co-equal branches, can restrain the executive regarding emergency powers. So can public opinion. Furthermore, since 1976, the President has been subject to certain procedural formalities in utilizing some statutorily delegated emergency authority.
The National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601-1651)eliminated or modified some statutory grants of emergency authority; required the President to declare formally the existence of a national emergency and to specify what statutory authority, activated by the declaration, would be used; and provided Congress a means to countermand the President’s declaration and the activated authority being sought.”

For the full content and report, go here: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/98-505.pdf


51 posted on 11/02/2009 1:51:19 PM PST by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: Sasparilla

If this goes through, all holy hell is going to break loose. These people must be insane to think that the American people will roll over for this crap.

On the flip side of it, this will spell the end of liberalism and facism in the United States and it will spell the doom of the UN.

When you infringe on peoples rights, don’t be surprised when they infringe on yours in return.

Also, this treaty is in direct violation of the Constitution and won’t be worth the paper it’s written on. We will not be bound to it.


52 posted on 11/02/2009 1:53:42 PM PST by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: mikelets456

“The President has the power to seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, call reserve forces amounting to 2 1/2 million men to duty, institute martial law, seize and control all menas of transportation, regulate all private enterprise, restrict travel, and in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all Americans...”

http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/laworder.htm

It’s all part of the plan.

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=FinalWarn09-2

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=FinalWarn09-3


53 posted on 11/02/2009 1:57:50 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


54 posted on 11/02/2009 2:00:40 PM PST by mikelets456
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To: ctdonath2
“but wonder that it may not have the expected consequences”

Elections, invasions,and revolutions all have unintended (and intended) consequences.

Doesn't mean they won't happen or that it will be pretty or organized..

Allowing a world body to decide our fate has *known* consequences.

All bad for the individual freedoms and wellbeing.

55 posted on 11/02/2009 2:04:58 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: mikelets456

If you check out those links, you’ll see how our constitutional freedoms/rights have been slowly eroded.

The PTBs and our current admin. could give a flying rat’s ass about our Constitution. They want it GONE.


56 posted on 11/02/2009 2:09:59 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Joe Brower

The idiot is setting the stage for a civil war.


57 posted on 11/02/2009 2:18:59 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: papasmurf

You might not believe it’s true but, history says it is.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/112032

The next step In the wannabe dictators plan is to declare Martial Law, confiscate all privately owned firearms, round up all dissenters and move them to detention centers. Also there will be detention centers for those who have the H1N1 virus.

A series of Executive Orders, internal governmental departmental laws, unpassed by Congress, the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1988 and the Violent Crime Control Act of 1991, provides additional powers to the President of the United States, allowing the suspension of the Constitution and Constitutional rights of Americans during a “drug crisis”. It provides for the construction of detention camps, seizure of property, and military control of populated areas, has whittled down Constitutional law substantially. These new Executive Orders and Congressional Acts allow for the construction of concentration camps, suspension of rights and the ability of the President to declare Martial Law in the event of a drug crisis. Congress will have no power to prevent the Martial Law declaration and can only review the process six months after Martial Law has been declared. The most critical Executive Order was issued on August 1, 1971. Nixon signed both a proclamation and Executive Order 11615. Proclamation No. 4074 states, “I hereby declare a national emergency”, thus establishing an economic crisis. That national emergency order has not been rescinded.


58 posted on 11/02/2009 2:20:16 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

“You might not believe it’s true...”

You’re correct.

A lot of that is taken way out of context. I lived through some of it so I know it is.


59 posted on 11/02/2009 2:34:20 PM PST by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
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To: Dead Corpse

“Are there enough people in MA who even give a sh*t to stand up for themselves?”

I grew up there. I would say no.


60 posted on 11/02/2009 2:46:45 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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