We just need to ask them about “liberal change” in places like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Sure! hope and change all over the place.
In their dreams.
I’ll have you know there have been many advances in Saudi! Why, do you know that the latest opinion polls there make it clear that a majority of saudis now believe that it is OK for women to actually drive cars! How about that for radicalism!!
It’s still illegal at the moment of course, but the winds of change and reform they are a-blowing!