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To: aquapub
What amazes me is, not many people are talking or asking the question of the constitutionality of the Federal government (or State for that matter) being involved in the health care business at all.

Whether the “plan” covers “illegal aliens” or “end-of-life” counseling, "abortions", etc., is totally irrelevant. The entire “plan” is completely unconstitutional.

I can’t believe the American people are arguing over these issues without questioning the very constitutionality of this bill in the first place. I can’t believe the American people are that stupid?

Where in the enumerated powers of the constitution does it authorize this debacle or for that matter 90% of the Federal and State programs now in effect?

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Article I, section 8

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dockyards, and other needful Buildings; — And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

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I don’t know, I don’t anything about health care reform? Maybe its in sections 9 and / or 10? Lets see.

Section. 9.

The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

Section. 10.

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws; and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

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Uhm, I just can’t find the authorization for health care reform?

A lot of Americans don’t realize what FDR did in 1933. It was a silent coup. The sheeple unknowingly and ignorantly and without a fight surrendered to a smooth talking anti-American socialist (just like Obamarx today) that promised to give them this and that.
The American sheeple didn’t question the constitutionality of the ”New Deal“ then nor are questioning the constitutionality of Obamarx’s “health care plan” or any of his other plans.

I did however find a similar plan that was instituted a couple of years ago in a land across the ocean.

*I don’t know of the validity of this speech, I haven’t verified it but here it is along with the URL.

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The Peace Freedom & Prosperity Movement
A World Wide Educational Movement That Will Educate on The Philosophy of Liberty, Self-Ownership

http://www.peacefreedomprosperity.com/?p=2128

Found: Hitler’s Health care Speech to Jews

[You may not have noticed the story on April 1, 2009 about German historians finding the script to Hitler’s only speech to a Jewish community. It was an election speech given in Nuremburg, just before the 1932 elections that swept the Nazi Party into power. Below are highlights from that speech.]

My dear Jewish friends and voters, as part of my campaign for hope and change, I come to you today to ask for your votes for members of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (but you can just call us Nazis).

First I want to make sure you know who we are. There have been many lies told about us—some from your own newspapers—so today I want to set the record straight.

Many of you question a party that’s led by me with my lack of experience as an elected official, but I assure you that I’ve had many years’ experience as a community organizer and activist, beginning with my Munich beer hall putsch in 1923.

Since then I’ve been organizing thousands of volunteers to help with community activities, such as getting out the vote, especially for oppressed, under-represented Aryans. You might recognize my volunteers by their distinctive brown shirts. (I got a good deal on some war surplus shirts, but I prefer purple.) I’ve been calling these volunteers my storm detachment (or SA), but I’ve been looking for a more environmentally friendly name—oh, something like ACORN.

I must warn you, if we Nazis are elected, we’ll inherit serious problems from our Republican predecessors. Just look at the hyperinflation caused by the Weimar Republic printing too many Reichsmarks. But we have all learned from this foolishness. I can promise you that the world will never again see such dummkoffs who’ll think they can stimulate the economy by spending their way out of a deficit. (Ach der lieber, what idiots!)

I also know many of you have heard the lies about me wanting to appoint my old friend Ludwig Müller as Reichs-bishop of a new Reichs-church. I can assure you that none of this is true. It is true that I’ve been a member of his church for the last 20 years when he often preached on White Liberation Theology, and he did help me find my Aryan identity, but I can assure you that I paid no attention to any of his messages and so he’ll have no effect on my leadership.

But this is all incidental. As I promised, we are the party of change you can believe in! That’s why I am here today—to announce to you my wunderbar new program, which you and the rest of the Fatherland will enjoy when you vote for Nazi candidates so I can become your new Chancellor. Heil!

Ja! Today I present to you my new single payer healthcare plan. I call it, “The Final Solution.”

All of you will be covered by it. Beautiful new treatment facilities will be built for you at such special locations as Auschwitz, Dachau und Buchenwald.

Nazi scientists are already working overtime on exciting new pharmaceuticals, such as Zyklon B, which has remarkable curative properties. And it’s excellent for removing lice.

If elected, we Nazis will immediately pass an economic stimulus package for new rail stations to provide you with free transportation to these state of the art healthcare facilities. Your future will truly be “shovel ready.” Ja, the world will see that universal healthcare truly provides cradle to grave care.

This final solution is such a wunderbar healthcare idea that I promise you that years from now other world leaders will be copying this same plan.

Our party’s goal is for all Germany to have a complete lives system in which its people grow with natural good health. We want all our citizens to have lives worth living for the next thousand years. Isn’t that what we all want for Germany?

But we need your votes to bring about this change. You can bet your life on that. Heil!

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An except from the Palm Beach Post

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/opinion/epaper/2009/08/27/a14a_engelhardtcol_0827.html

By Joel Engelhardt
Palm Beach Post Editorial Writer
Thursday, August 27, 2009

"The greatest revolution which National Socialism has brought about is that it has rent asunder the veil which hid from us the knowledge that all human failures and mistakes are due to the conditions of the time and therefore can be remedied, but that there is one error which cannot be remedied once men have made it, namely the failure to recognize the importance of conserving the blood and the race free from intermixture and thereby the racial aspect and character which are God's gift and God's handiwork."

Adolf Hitler, speech before the Reichstag (legislature), Jan. 30, 1937

"For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division and conflict and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle - as we did in the O.J. trial - or in the wake of tragedy - as we did in the aftermath of Katrina - or as fodder for the nightly news. ... That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, 'Not this time.' "

Sen. Obama, speech on race, Philadelphia, March 18, 2008

"It had once more become a humiliation to confess publicly that one was a German. The spirit of insubordination and of internal revolt within a few months we exterminated and destroyed. While fully respecting the essential character of our German tribes we have strengthened the authority of the Reich as the expression of the common will of our people's life and have made it supreme."

Hitler, July 13, 1934, in explaining to the Reichstag the bloody Nazi Party purge known as the Night of the Long Knives

"The arc of history shows us that governments which serve their own people survive and thrive. Governments which serve only their own power do not. Governments that represent the will of their people are far less likely to descend into failed states, to terrorize their citizens, or to wage war on others. ... As president of the United States, I will work tirelessly to protect America's security and to advance our interests. But no one nation can meet the challenges of the 21st century on its own, nor dictate its terms to the world."

President Obama addressing graduates at the New Economic School in Moscow, July 7, 2009

"The National Socialist movement has laid down the directive lines along which the state must conduct the education of the people. This education does not begin at a certain year and end at another. The development of the human being makes it necessary to take the child from the control of that small cell of social life, which is the family, and entrust his further training to the community itself. ... It is the duty of the folk-community to see that this education and higher training must always be along lines that help the community to fulfill its own task, which is the maintenance of the race and nation."

Hitler, speech before the Reichstag, Jan. 30, 1937

"So let there be no doubt: The future belongs to the nation that best educates its citizens - and my fellow Americans, we have everything we need to be that nation. We have the best universities, the most renowned scholars. We have innovative principals and passionate teachers and gifted students, and we have parents whose only priority is their child's education. ... No government policy will make any difference unless we also hold ourselves more accountable as parents."

President Obama, speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Washington, March 10, 2009

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The German people wanted change and they got it.

‘Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.’

More unconstitutional crap

10 posted on 09/10/2009 11:30:57 AM PDT by Mikey (He that refuses to know and exert his rights, doesn't deserve them.)
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To: Mikey

Bump


11 posted on 09/10/2009 11:32:43 AM PDT by sport
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To: Mikey

Excellent post!


12 posted on 09/10/2009 12:44:59 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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