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America VS Obama
Word Press ^ | 5 June 2008 | Fredshelm

Posted on 08/25/2009 7:32:13 PM PDT by Candor7

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To: Fred Nerks

If you are accepting that arabic speaking people are arab, then yes, some Omanis are black having migrated centuries ago. This is a construct of the Arab League which claims that anyone living in an arabic speaking country is arab so they can claim control as an arab state to expand their influence.
Genetically, black people are not arabs.


21 posted on 08/25/2009 10:31:54 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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By the late nineteenth century, the slave trade on the open seas had been completely outlawed by the British and the Omani Arabs had little ability to resist the Royal Navy's ability to enforce the directive. The Omani presence continued in Zanzibar and Pemba until the 1964 revolution, but the official Omani Arab presence in Kenya was checked by German and British seizure of key ports and creation of crucial trade alliances with influential local leaders in the 1880s. However, the Omani Arab legacy in East Africa is currently found through their numerous descendants found along the coast that can directly trace ancestry to Oman and are typically the wealthiest and most politically influential members of the Kenyan coastal community.

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22 posted on 08/25/2009 10:34:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I don’t think the book was to establish paternity. I think it was to establish a racial choice he deliberately made.
I doubt that at the time he “wrote” the book, he ever thought his paternity would be his downfall.
He was/is proud of those ethnic roots even if his father was a womanizing drunk. He is, quite obviously NOT so proud of his white heritage, considers it no heritage at all. Mama was a rolling stone that gathered no moss and no worshipping chillun.
I have had occasion to speak with biracial people who chose their blackness over their whiteness, especially those with white mothers. They showed very little respect for them. One even said he hated his mother because, and this is a quote, “She slept with a black man.”
Barry didn’t have much use for his mother, but she fed him hero stories about his black father at a very young age. He identified with bam Sr because he didn’t have any use for Soetoro either.


23 posted on 08/25/2009 10:46:08 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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I don’t think arabs give a darn about our genetic terms:

http://savethetruearabs.com/index.html

The Ancient Arabs’ Description of the Pure Arabs

The best way to get a true picture of what the original Arabs of the past looked like is to ask the original Arabs of the past themselves. So let’s take a look at what the original, pure Arabs of 1400 years ago said about the appearance of the pure Arabs...


Furthermore, if you cannot imagine how a kenyan black of any tribe, with an arab father, might choose to describe himself as an arab - as he would be entitled to - for the benefit of belonging to the ruling class, there’s nothing more for me to say on the subject.


24 posted on 08/25/2009 10:50:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: MestaMachine
I don’t think the book was to establish paternity.

Then he could have called it 'Dreams From My Mother'

I think it was to establish a racial choice he deliberately made.

He could hardly have passed himself off as white...

I doubt that at the time he “wrote” the book, he ever thought his paternity would be his downfall.

depends entirely on WHO the father was.

25 posted on 08/25/2009 10:59:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: Fred Nerks

“Furthermore, if you cannot imagine how a kenyan black of any tribe, with an arab father, might choose to describe himself as an arab - as he would be entitled to - for the benefit of belonging to the ruling class, there’s nothing more for me to say on the subject.”

I understand why someone would want to describe themselves as arab for the reasons you state, but that was not the argument from the genetic standpoint of how much “percentage” is Negro vs how much was “arab.” Racially, they are different.
bam Sr never described himself, nor did any of the Luo as far as I can see, as arab. The Luo were proud of who they were/are. bam Sr’s father had a hissy fit over Dunham interfering with, “dirtying,” the Luo bloodline.
It really doesn’t matter anyway. He ain’t all anything. That is the point. He isn’t the first black president. He isn’t the first white president. He isn’t the first arab president. He is most likely not even an American born president.
His 50% whiteness eliminates him from the competition for any of those. He is a mongrel, maybe not sure of his own paternity. And WE are 99.9% sure he was not born here no matter who his daddy was.
Canada, Kenya. Whichever. I opt for Kenya.


26 posted on 08/25/2009 11:21:36 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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“He could hardly have passed himself off as white...”

No, but he could openly reject his whiteness and be “all black” with an authentic African father and everything. His hatred of white people barely stays under his thin skin, whatever color it is.


27 posted on 08/25/2009 11:30:03 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: Candor7

tnx for posting the pic!


28 posted on 08/26/2009 5:11:57 AM PDT by mo
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