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Union Pensions Getting BIG Payoff From Obamacare
Publius Forum ^ | 08/14/09 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 08/14/2009 9:39:51 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

It isn’t just out of the goodness of their hearts that Big Labor is gearing up to spend millions to help President Obama to jam Obamacare down the throats of the American people. The unions stand to get a big payoff of $10 billion to supplement their failing pension plans.

The President of the AFL-CIO recently announced that the union would jump into the healthcare fight to help out “working people.” John Sweeney also said that the healthcare fight is “the next big step in our march to turn around America.”

But unions already have their own healthcare plans and Obama promised -- for whatever an Obama promise is worth -- that union plans would be untouched by Obamacare. So, what are the unions in the fight for if it doesn’t really touch them?

The answer to that question appears in the House bill on page 65, section 164 where unions are to receive a $10 billion dollar infusion of taxpayer’s money to supplement their failing plans through a program called the “reinsurance plan.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: aflcio; agenda; bho44; bhohealthcare; biglabor; bustunions; communism; corruption; democrats; healthcare; healthcarebill; healthcarereform; johnsweeney; killthebill; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; pensions; reinsuranceplan; seiu; socialism; socializedmedicine; unioncorruption; unions; unionthugs
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The Dems have hidden tons of pork, payoffs, and anti-American policies in this crap healthcare bill!
1 posted on 08/14/2009 9:39:56 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

We need to break and outlaw all Unions especially Government ee unions. As soon as we take over.


2 posted on 08/14/2009 9:45:09 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

This means that not only the Teamsters, etc, but ACORN and SEIU, the thugs who are threatening us, are getting $10 BILLION dollars of taxpayer money from this healthcare crap. This is so EVIL it is beyond words. No wonder we are being threatened at the polls and at the Townhalls by obamanation enforcers.... they are stealing from us and daring us to defy them! What an INSULT to the American people!! SCRAP this bill, it doesn’t need fixing, it needs BURNING.

“But unions already have their own healthcare plans and Obama promised — for whatever an Obama promise is worth — that union plans would be untouched by Obamacare. So, what are the unions in the fight for if it doesn’t really touch them?

The answer to that question appears in the House bill on page 65, section 164 where unions are to receive a $10 billion dollar infusion of taxpayer’s money to supplement their failing plans through a program called the “reinsurance plan.”

In his open letter, Sweeney said that one of the union’s goals was to seek “relief for company/union funds providing pre-Medicare retiree coverage.” This would be people that retired from the unions before they are eligible for Medicare. In other words, the union is looking for federal funds to relieve expenditures from his over extended pension plans.

Well, low and behold the House healthcare bill has included in it a “Reinsurance Program for Retirees” (section 164). This section stipulates that $10 billion will be set aside for this program of “reinsurance” for those older than 55 and not yet eligible for Medicare.”


3 posted on 08/14/2009 9:48:19 AM PDT by bareford101 (What Obama is doing to America is REVERSE-TREASON)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
"...unions are to receive a $10 billion dollar infusion of taxpayer’s money to supplement their failing plans.."
Maybe they could save some money by not busing their thugs to all those town hall meetings?
4 posted on 08/14/2009 9:49:52 AM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: screaminsunshine

parasites. suck the life out of their host and now looking to leech off the rest of us.


5 posted on 08/14/2009 10:12:44 AM PDT by wiggen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayzmX0WQvg)
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To: Mobile Vulgus; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


6 posted on 08/14/2009 10:36:59 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: screaminsunshine

The SEIU has it own dictatorship. According to this article from January I came across, the UHW says the SEIU President, Andy Stern has been centralizing power in D.C. and is using “authoritarian tactics suppressing democracy” in treatment of other union members. Trouble within their own ranks with the way SEIU conducts itself.

http://www.openleft.com/tag/union-busting

“Throw Them Out” - UHW-SEIU calls for massive resistance by members to Stern dictatorship

by: JimmyHiggins
Fri Jan 23, 2009 at 09:13

SEIU President Andy Stern has received authority from his international executive board of toadies and flunkies to impose a trusteeship on the 150,000 members United Healthcare Workers West (UHW). This is a punitive trusteeship imposed to silence dissent from Stern’s policies of centralizing power in Washington DC and doing secret backroom deals with corporate CEOs against the interests of members. Stern is sending hundreds of union-busting scabs to California (selected SEIU international union staffers) to attack and destroy UHW, despite months of massive rank and file protests by union members.
UHW is calling for massive resistance in the workplaces to Stern’s scabs.

All real trade unionists everywhere should solidarize with UHW and defend the principle of union democracy.

Stern’s crackdown comes at a horrible time - by identifying union leadership with authoritarian tactics suppressing democracy, it makes it much harder for other unions to win much needed labor law reforms in Congress. Progressives should protest to SEIU and tell them “Respect the Right of Dissent - Hands Off UHW!”

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Here’s a little ditty on SEIU President Stern that you might find interesting:

“Union President Stern the Hand in Obama’s Puppet?”

Posted on June 30, 2009 by WTH .

The L.A. Times had a very interesting piece last week on the unusually close relationship between Service Employees International Union President Andy Stern and President Obama. The story revealed how Stern “enjoys unusual access to the White House,” and how often Stern is invited to attend meetings the administration holds on policy even as other union heads are left out of the loop.

The piece does cast some doubt on just how much clout Stern might have with Obama as several of the initiatives he has pushed hard for have yet to come to fruition — but it should also be remembered that this administration is only 6 months old. There is plenty of time, here.

Though it does not develop the theme, here is where the Times piece shows the danger that Andy Stern’s close connection with Obama presents to the country and its various governments, federal and state both.

The SEIU’s access to the White House also has left California officials unsettled. Earlier this year, the Obama administration invited the SEIU to take part in a conference call centering on a dispute over pay cuts to home healthcare workers represented by the union. State officials said the union’s involvement in a government-to-government conference seemed inappropriate.

Inappropriate? You bet. But Obama indulged his buddy Stern anyway.

So, where is the danger? Andy Stern’s SEIU is the biggest union in the country that represents government workers of all sorts. If Stern can translate his close relationship to the administration into cajoling and strongarming more and more government workers into his union, Stern will (and already has to a great extent) become an unelected, fourth branch of government in every state of the union as well as Congress.

Before any government budget is decided, before any responsible cut in spending is considered, government officials all across the land have to go to Andy Stern, hat in hand, to ask him if they are allowed to cut costs. This is a check on government power that the voters have absolutely no say whatever in affecting. This is a power that is illegitimately in the hands of a self-interested union thug that could not care less what “good government” means nor what is best for the tax payers. In fact, his interest is to screw the tax payers as much as possible, yet he is being handed almost total veto power on state and federal budgetary concerns. The closer to Obama he gets, the more his clout grows and the more powerful he becomes, legitimate or not.

This man is a danger to the whole country.

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Interesting, a day before the election, Stern was in Chicago meeting with Blago:

http://www.exposeobama.com/tag/andy-stern/

“Blagojevich Calendar Confirms Suspicions”
Thursday, January 8th, 2009

By John O’Connor, Associated Press

It takes two to tango and Obama’s people should held accountable
Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s official calendar shows he met with a top union official in his Chicago office the day before Barack Obama was elected president—just as federal prosecutors say the governor was scheming to trade Obama’s Senate seat, possibly for a cushy union job.

The meeting with Andy Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, also was attended by Tom Balanoff, president of the Illinois chapter of the union, which has been Blagojevich’s largest campaign contributor.

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And now he’s using his underhanded tactics on all of America for the benefit of Obama!


7 posted on 08/14/2009 10:41:42 AM PDT by 444Flyer (FReepers and freedom lovers, we are in a gigantic TUG-OF-WAR for our nation and our Constitution.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

“OBAMANIST UNIONS PREPARE ASSAULT TO FORCE HEALTHCARE TAKE-OVER”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2315705/posts


8 posted on 08/14/2009 10:43:23 AM PDT by 444Flyer (FReepers and freedom lovers, we are in a gigantic TUG-OF-WAR for our nation and our Constitution.)
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To: Newedor; HollyB; EternalVigilance; Saoirise; FlyingEagle; Parley Baer; EverOnward; ...

Ping.

Talk about your incentives.


9 posted on 08/14/2009 11:00:09 AM PDT by 444Flyer (FReepers and freedom lovers, we are in a gigantic TUG-OF-WAR for our nation and our Constitution.)
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To: 444Flyer

Thanks for the ping!


10 posted on 08/14/2009 11:03:38 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mobile Vulgus
These treasonous bastards have got to be stopped. They are f*cking my children's and grandchildrens future, and each of these traitors know exactly what they are doing.

The government media should also BE STOPPED! This country is going to hell.

11 posted on 08/14/2009 11:03:49 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus; All

“SEIU “Corporate Campaign”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2316119/posts


12 posted on 08/14/2009 11:14:49 AM PDT by 444Flyer (FReepers and freedom lovers, we are in a gigantic TUG-OF-WAR for our nation and our Constitution.)
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To: Timeout

Reminder to join union on Monday.


13 posted on 08/14/2009 11:32:58 AM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: All

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”-Barack Obama

“Hitler had his SA brown shirts, Obama has his SEIU purple shirts, but who are these thugs?”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2313317/posts


14 posted on 08/14/2009 11:40:49 AM PDT by 444Flyer (FReepers and freedom lovers, we are in a gigantic TUG-OF-WAR for our nation and our Constitution.)
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To: FrogMom

ping


15 posted on 08/14/2009 11:49:14 AM PDT by Frogtacos (It all went to hell when we started cooking outside and crapping inside.)
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To: 444Flyer

Always follow the money with the Chicago Organizer.


16 posted on 08/14/2009 11:55:05 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: 444Flyer
Obama Yoots!
17 posted on 08/14/2009 11:57:41 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Thank God for Publius. I’ve been trying to get this same information out since Aug 6th!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2309871/posts

Hope it catches on!


18 posted on 08/14/2009 12:31:21 PM PDT by Timeout (Brits have the royals. Russia, the Nomenklatura. WE have our privileged "public servant" class.)
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To: 444Flyer

Can I start my own union? and apply for incentives?


19 posted on 08/14/2009 2:09:58 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: machogirl

Hmmm. How ‘bout a Free Republic union?!


20 posted on 08/14/2009 4:45:13 PM PDT by Timeout (Brits have the royals. Russia, the Nomenklatura. WE have our privileged "public servant" class.)
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