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Obama Threatens Lawyer Over Birth Certificate
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| 5/4/09
| Purple Mountains
Posted on 05/04/2009 6:08:05 PM PDT by PurpleMountains
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To: PurpleMountains
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posted on
05/04/2009 9:23:53 PM PDT
by
skinkinthegrass
(make no mistake...If you run a war by lawyers, you'll lose practically every time. :^)
To: Poison Pill
I didn’t think BC listed one’s religion. Mine doesn’t.
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posted on
05/04/2009 10:02:59 PM PDT
by
Tamar1973
(Riding the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon drama at a time!)
To: Uncle Sham
I’ve got an easier method. What FReeper works at the HI state office where this is held? There has to be someone who can get a phone camera shot IF it does not match the one he posted on his website, which appears to be forged. As a guess its probably under lock and key, but if not.... He supposedly has nothing to hide.
Yes it would create hell/lawsuits/probably jail time. I swear on my life I’d do it if I had access. It’s that important. It could be worse though. Look how many of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were killed, bankrupted or their families destroyed by what they did. This by comparison would be tame. I am tired of their absolute power being applied agains ordinary citizens, and I am fearful of where all this will lead.
To: OneWingedShark
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.
The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.
Listen to the
recording here
The quote is around 12:35, so if you dont have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:
Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born
Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive
Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there
Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.
Here is an
abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.
It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --youll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.
First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.
Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.
He used the same technique on the question of Obamas birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."
Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.
Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.
Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference.
Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..
They are the same.
Subsequently, the
Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:
"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."
However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.
"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."
While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is
a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in in her village in Kenya There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in her town but rather that he is a "son of this village". If taken alone, she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.
Again here is a
pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:
HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA
Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.
(Applause)
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.
Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.
The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has
paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)
Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that.
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posted on
05/04/2009 10:27:39 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: PurpleMountains
Here is
Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"
Here in plain English is the
Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.
Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982
from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears
on his dual citizenship at birth
When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.
Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser,
Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?
A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has
paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue.
Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?
The thing has become a joke in washington. d
Joe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.
After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "
From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.
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posted on
05/04/2009 10:28:33 PM PDT
by
ckilmer
(Phi)
To: PurpleMountains
This issue has been thoroughly twittered. No need for an appeal.
66
posted on
05/04/2009 10:48:21 PM PDT
by
FTJM
To: PurpleMountains
The more I see of this marxist elitist the more I think he is hiding ALOT!
To: Diogenesis
Is that picture of Obama with his hand on his heart farked or real... I mean it could be real is the point. SICKENING!!!
To: Vision; Uncle Sham
Nice try, but no soup for you. I noticed another Freeper set you straight and you haven't bothered to acknowledge that post. I would bet you will try to float that same lie on another post before the week is out!
Below is another Axerlrodesque post like you try to float. It too is absurd on the surface, to anyone who has been paying attention. But that paying attention is why you folks keep trying to float the layers of lies in Axelrod fashion just like the O bow ma noid rotten acorns used lies in the campaign.
"Not being a bandwagon person, I would say that even with a birth certificate proving Obama is foreign-born, he certainly had an American mother, and that is all it takes."
Notice how the poster tried to float the dissembling that 'citizen equates with natural born citizen as written in the Constitution'? Obamanoids (most of whom are 2007 or later sign-ons at FR) must be really fearful that one of these days the truth about the Marxist affirmative action fraud will be exposed in a court of law! This organized effort to discredit the entire opposition to this liar-in-chief is getting almost humorous.
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posted on
05/05/2009 8:59:33 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: MHGinTN
What the hell are you talking about. The Gov did seal his BC you loon.
70
posted on
05/05/2009 9:58:47 AM PDT
by
Vision
(Obama is a jive turkey)
To: Vision
SAo, you refuse to read what others have posted to you. Okay, prove your assertion.
71
posted on
05/05/2009 10:01:04 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: Vision
While you're avoiding offering anything substantial to answer 'the loon', here's a little something for you to consider regarding the 'sealing of records':
For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obamas official birth certificate. State law (Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obamas original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii.
###
For more information, contact: Janice Okubo
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
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posted on
05/05/2009 10:06:11 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: Atom Smasher
"I think maybe I will finally sleep tonight! Youre awesome..."It's the Constitution that's "Awesome" but thanks for the kind words anyway. :-)
BTW, the process might differ by state so don't wait on me. You can be just as "awesome". The more the merrier.
To: PurpleMountains
That's a good blog you've linked to.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
0bama is hot under the collar.
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posted on
05/05/2009 6:42:28 PM PDT
by
happygrl
(Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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