Posted on 05/02/2009 6:32:54 AM PDT by Corky Boyd
Yesterday (May 1) on Detroit’s Frank Beckman’s morning talk show (WJR), bankruptcy attorney Tom Lauria made the incendiary accusation that the members of the White House had threatened to use the “the full force of the White House Press Corps to destroy” his client’s reputation if it didn’t acquiesce to highly unfavorable terms of the government’s proposed Chrysler restructuring plan. Because of the strongarm tactics, Lauria’s client dropped its opposition.
Here is the tape of Beckman’s interview of
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Isn't there a RICO case here?
First 100 days he seized the U.S. census, the banking industry and the auto industry. The next 200 days they say he’s targeting takeover of the energy industries and healthcare industries.
If I didn’t know any better I’d say he’s on his way to a dictatorship. But silly me for thinking this way.
Thinking it ain't the inherently dangerous part if what one thinks true.
Saying it aloud OTOH, carries a real risk.
Chicago style.
I'm snugging up my tinfoil hat but why else would the Census need GPS coordinates on every residence in the country?
Aye my friend, you got it as usual.
Of course that'd assume the Justice Department's capable of performing their duly sworn oath, eh?
"I'm snugging up my tinfoil hat but why else would the Census need GPS"
Go ahead, snuggle away.
Aluminum's down. :^)
GOOD to see you're [still] knockin' around TE! ;^)
Of course that'd assume the Justice Department's capable of performing their duly sworn oath, eh?
I guess I would assume that some patriots might still reside in the JD or some other agency who might have the wherewithall to see the pattern and expose it. But I was also thinking that others, like journalists and private citizens, might be able to spot and identify what was going on if traditional means were used to direct a mob to a target.
If nothing was sent but a set of coordinates with a coded or prearranged plan for their use then the plausible deniability would be very strong.
What do they call those pranks where kids text each other to show up at a specific time and place and do something outrageous? I am seeing this GPS database as a means to turn that kind of spontaneous event into a well coordinated political/activist tool. Kristallnacht by Twitter. Straight from BlackBarry One.
It could be a quantum improvement on the isolated cells Al Queada uses. Local ACORN leaders would know how to respond to the call but the what wouldn't be known in advance. The why might never be told to them. The rest wouldn't even know they were part of a cell they would just think they were part of a groovy new way to get in on a protest.
GOOD to see you're [still] knockin' around TE!
Still at it. Every day I wonder if I shouldn't hang up my keyboard. If they somehow match those GPS waypoints with internet accounts we're all in big trouble.
Not to be contrary, my friend; however, that kind of assumption can easily land one in stern for a good, long time. If it wanted, I mean. Listen: Just heard the jamokes are all bent outa shape, want zerO to rewrite prison sentencing for blacks. Yup. Seems there're more blacks in the can than Caucasians. They don't like that. Think it's unfair. You white, brother? If they cannot rewrite the laws to suite their needs, they'll even out that prison demo, somehow. Capiche? ;^)
"But I was also thinking that others, like journalists and private citizens, might be able to spot and identify what was going on if traditional means were used to direct a mob to a target."
*Journalists*??
~hoy boy...we gotta talk.
Anyone could spot and identify what was going on, TE.
If they wanted, didn't think it a *grand* idea throwing seditious, treasonous POS [read: you *&* I] right-wingers into the deepest, darkest slammer there is (think Marion) forevermore, if not permanently. :^)
Annnnnd they'd make damned sure one would have the company of a 450+ pounder named Dwight. Really.
Guess you're simply too nice a person, aren't hardwired to think anywhere near the depth of the pricks we're up against. {g}
And lookit I'm not so sure relying on "private citizen(s)", per se, is all that swift an idea either.
All one need do --these days, especially-- is threaten the private citizen with revoking their DircTV, or even livelihood.
The private citizen will STFU so fast it'd make a hungry clam look sluggish.
The private citizen {God Bless 'em} will toe the line and throw any naive dreamer right under the proverbial bus.
Only time [it] doesn't happen is in a Hollywierd movie.
That's how I see it anyway, FWIW. ;^)
"If nothing was sent but a set of coordinates with a coded or prearranged plan for their use then the plausible deniability would be very strong."
Of course it'd be strong, it it weren't airtight we'd never see it to begin with. One only figures out what's happening after its happened, eh?
While the mere suggestion a trap --of some sort-- w/could be set to snare the buggers in the act? Well. The type of thieves, liars and quite possibly murderers responsible for the baloney? Most possess law degrees & other assorted paper. Y'know real badgers, guns, bullets and tanks if need be --& yes at Waco they *needed* tanks-- and the coup de gras? Draw a paycheck from the US Treasury paid for by you & I.
Yessssssss! Is that sweet or what; or, as they say, great work if ya can get it.
Then afterwards when the dust's settled & whatever prisoners taken, come the clowns!!
Y'know the official Government consecrated, sanctified Psychiatrists?
Have you never heard of Alexander Solzhenitsyn?
How about his epic Gulag Archipelago?
If so remember it well, if not read it.
Good ol' Alex, he wrote at length concerning how *issues* in his Mother Russia were dealt with.
Might very well been writing about the United Sates of America circa 2010, making Alex more prescient then he ever could possibly have imagined.
Just saying.
"What do they call those pranks where kids text each other to show up at a specific time and place and do something outrageous? I am seeing this GPS database as a means to turn that kind of spontaneous event into a well coordinated political/activist tool. Kristallnacht by Twitter. Straight from BlackBarry One."
Hell's bells sure it could, and probably will God forbid. If they tapped into OnStar they could really turbo charge their operations. :o)
If anyone's going to pull that kind of crap, there's really nothing anyone else can do about it until after it's done.
Then the opposition's main soldiers will have to be Electrical Engineers.
"It could be a quantum improvement on the isolated cells Al Queada uses. Local ACORN leaders would know how to respond to the call but the what wouldn't be known in advance. The why might never be told to them. The rest wouldn't even know they were part of a cell they would just think they were part of a groovy new way to get in on a protest."
Sounds like a plan, just hope they're not listening. {g}
There's a better way.
Just don't ask me, I don't know.
If I had to guess and shooting from the hip?
Whatever fight to be waged in a defensive manner would have to be upon target(s) of opportunity ala Guerrilla style.
That alone suggests a high level of coordination, intel etc and all without the use of any electronic contrivances.
What else does the American citizen know how to use these sterile days, only technology.
Of course, there's always the Internet. :o)
I'm full of it, TE.
Anyone genuinely curious concerning the logistics of such an endeavor would have to speak with/to people who understand a great deal more than I starting with military strategies et al and then go from there.
In short, anyone but me.
All I can do -- all I know how to do is die.
No one should die needlessly, but if they must it had better be meaningful.
>GOOD to see you're [still] knockin' around TE!
"Still at it. Every day I wonder if I shouldn't hang up my keyboard."
I took a year off, know what'cha mean.
Real-time does wonders for the soul while cyberlife often the opposite. Strange, that.
Well it is after all for us, spring...When a young man's heart turns to matters of love. (~or some such bilge.)
If one wanted to take a hiatus, now'd be the time.
"If they somehow match those GPS waypoints with internet accounts we're all in big trouble."
Good grief, TE.
Don'tchu think they know who we are, where we are, what we drive, where we work -- if we work, sexual proclivity and other identifying idiosyncharcies our spousal units don't even know?
C'mon, think about it.
We done been bagged long time ago, bro'.
Well nice yakking with ya, again.
Chin-up, and lead with the left. ;^)
While I am sure they have some impressive files on many of us I don't think they know all about all of us. I have looked into it and I am satisfied that only the spookiest of spooks can put a name to an internet user without a subpoena. Or a serious cracker who is willing to invest serious time and effort for each name. Those spooks may not be on our side but I don't think they're on their side either.
To be less than candid; I don't think the people will have to take care of the problem. The problem is generating concerns far beyond the street level. IMO.
As for me I'm such a tiny tiny fish I'm sure there will be lots of blood in the water before I become a target. I think I'll know how and when to disappear.
God Bless you, too. I'm watching this stuff defined to death, few if any solution(s) proffered. Nature of the beast, I suppose.
"Like you I'm not trained in warfare or electronics."
Wellll by definition I'm a terrorist since I'm a military veteran, Caucasian, conservative etc. Am a big fat walking talking bulls-eye.
Also was an EE, so can perceive what'd be needed to bring it all crashing down, if it had to, with help from other disciplines. Good, inventive code writers would have a very prominent role, also. Think H1B1 is a bad-ass, there're all kinds of viruses that're a lot worse. ;^)
Any conflict we might speculate over, for whatever reason(s) will be fought much differently then anything anyone's witnessed, prior.
I'm certain your imagination's brought you to a similar conclusion, also.
"I just see patterns, connect dots and pass my thoughts along. I'm not too worried about giving the opposition ideas either."
I certainly am.
We've been, are and remain our own worst enemies.
For example as much as I love Talk Radio, rely on it for the other side of the story? It actually provides the opposition buggers a continual stream of feedback to whatever shenanigan they've pulled, or want to pull.
We literally tell 'em where it hurts TE.
There're more examples, but no more thesis's today. LOL
"Their arrogance is probably their greatest weakness and, apart from that, I don't think there's much they haven't thought of."
Agreed.
Only things remaining are the things they haven't done.
"While I am sure they have some impressive files on many of us I don't think they know all about all of us."
All, TE.
"I have looked into it and I am satisfied that only the spookiest of spooks can put a name to an internet user without a subpoena."
Of course you're being facetious.
I mean the White House wouldn't threaten people with personal *&* financial destruction, AND, get away with it.
Never happen, not in the United States of America. ;^)
"Or a serious cracker who is willing to invest serious time and effort for each name. Those spooks may not be on our side but I don't think they're on their side either."
HA!!
Begs the question then whose side are they on, huh.
"To be less than candid; I don't think the people will have to take care of the problem. The problem is generating concerns far beyond the street level. IMO."
On this we're at 60Hz, my friend. ;^)
I've told those closest to me for months the halfrican imbecile's setting into motion so many unintended consequences when they begin coming to fruition it'll be impossible to identify which act of buffoonery triggered which response.
Pray my take's a lot more than mere wishful thinking, too. :o)
"As for me I'm such a tiny tiny fish I'm sure there will be lots of blood in the water before I become a target."
It's the polar opposite.
It's the "small fish" [read: we] who'll be targeted, first. This kind of thuggery demands examples be set which in-turn make future intended thuggery a lot easier.
Does a bully ever pick on the strongest in the crowd?
"I think I'll know how and when to disappear."
I'm too old for the evasion stuff, to be frank.
But I *do* know how and where to throw a penny!
I'd hope the mechanical guys could appreciate the analogy.
Just remember as these troubled times pass by the time one becomes savvy they're candidates for "examplification"?
They done been examplified.
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