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Poll: Should Alaska (D)Sen. Mark Begich resign his seat so a special election can be held?
Juneau Empire ^ | 4/6/09 | steptoe

Posted on 04/06/2009 1:03:15 PM PDT by steptoe

POLL: Should U.S. Sen. Mark Begich resign his seat so a special election can be held?

scroll down to the bottom of the page and vote yes.

http://www.juneauempire.com/


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 111th; begich; tedstevens; waaambulance
scroll down to the bottom of the page and vote yes.
1 posted on 04/06/2009 1:03:15 PM PDT by steptoe
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To: steptoe

As I understand it, the citizens of Alaska will have the chance to vote Begich out of office in November of 2014.


2 posted on 04/06/2009 1:05:46 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Content to wait are ye?


3 posted on 04/06/2009 1:09:45 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: steptoe

You have a better chance of Kim Jong Il stepping down and holding free elections.

Democrats never just surrender power.


4 posted on 04/06/2009 1:10:50 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: traderrob6

No, simply content to abide by the Constitution.


5 posted on 04/06/2009 1:13:09 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: steptoe

Riiiiiiight. You’d be hard-pressed to find any politician who would do this.


6 posted on 04/06/2009 1:14:28 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: trumandogz

He should resign now. His win was predicated on fraud by the Justice Department. So should Jon Tester in Montana who also won by similar chicanery.


7 posted on 04/06/2009 1:14:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: trumandogz

So a special election being held to give the Alaskan people an opportunity to vote on their Senator when the true facts are known rather then under the veil of possibly criminally concocted prosecutions is unconstitutional? Is that what you’re saying?


8 posted on 04/06/2009 1:17:41 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If there was fraud at the previous Justice Department, the current Justice Department should indict the Associate A’s.G and the previous Attorney General.


9 posted on 04/06/2009 1:17:56 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

begich only one by 3000 votes


10 posted on 04/06/2009 1:22:08 PM PDT by steptoe
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To: traderrob6

No, I am saying the Constitution specifies that a Senator will serve a six year term.

And if the prosecution against Stevens was illegal, then you should advocate that all the Justice officials involved in the prosecution be indicted.


11 posted on 04/06/2009 1:24:48 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

You don’t know much about the Justice department, do you ? Biggest mistake the government ever made was getting rid of patronage and keeping people loyal to a given administration not looking to undermine it. Civil service all but guarantees legions of left-wingers infesting Republican administrations, and they’re up to their eyeballs in every single department. Tester and Begich won by fraud, and they should step aside and have a new election run in each with the FACTS being known that the prior incumbents were not guilty of the trumped-up charges and specifications levelled at them. This is a systematic attempt by the left to run Republicans out of office. All they have to do is pick out a target and set them up. And Conrad Burns and Stevens weren’t the only targets, either.


12 posted on 04/06/2009 1:26:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: steptoe
begich only one by 3000 votes {sic}

That seemed to be enough to cause Stevens to concede.

In any case, the GOP does not need Ted Stevens back in the Senate.

13 posted on 04/06/2009 1:28:19 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: steptoe

we can’t even get a re-vote in Minnesota. Why should there be one in Alaska?


14 posted on 04/06/2009 1:29:35 PM PDT by GreatDaggar
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To: trumandogz

Look, most of us aren’t fans of Stevens. I think he’s an arrogant jerk who overstayed his welcome by a few decades. That doesn’t change the fact that he was deliberately set up.


15 posted on 04/06/2009 1:30:00 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The Attorney General has oversight of all high profile prosecutions.


16 posted on 04/06/2009 1:30:02 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Sorry, didn’t realize you were a constitutional expert.


17 posted on 04/06/2009 1:30:29 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

I’m missing the part in the Constitution where it says Republicans set up by left-wing civil service employees and run from office on the myth of corruption should sit back and take it. Maybe he can point that out to us ?


18 posted on 04/06/2009 1:32:17 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: trumandogz

That’s too long. Let’s give him the boot now.


19 posted on 04/06/2009 1:33:17 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: trumandogz

Did Mukasey prosecute it personally ?


20 posted on 04/06/2009 1:33:22 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: 1035rep

Stevens conceded and Begich was sworn into office. There does not seem to be a constitutional provision for a Do-Over.


21 posted on 04/06/2009 1:34:55 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

No, but he has oversight of his department and signs off on high profile prosecutions.


22 posted on 04/06/2009 1:36:07 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Better question. Why are you defending this corruption ?


23 posted on 04/06/2009 1:38:00 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: trumandogz
We really need a do-over here. I think we need to ride hard and dirty whenever we can. I'm tired of the libtards tactics.
24 posted on 04/06/2009 1:40:17 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: steptoe

begich only won by 3000 votes


25 posted on 04/06/2009 1:46:28 PM PDT by steptoe
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I am not defending corruption and have in fact advocated the prosecution of all Justice officials involved in the Stevens’ prosecution.


26 posted on 04/06/2009 1:50:36 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: 1035rep

Yes, America needs a Do-Over for the 2008 Presidential Election and the GOP needs a Do-Over of the 2008 primaries.

However, those things are not going to happen since there is no “Do-Over” clause in the Constitution.


27 posted on 04/06/2009 1:52:57 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

That’s fine. Why do you oppose urging those Democrats who won elections BASED upon fraudulent prosecutions and allegations of corruption towards Republican incumbents from stepping down so a new election can be called and a fair election can be run ?


28 posted on 04/06/2009 1:54:03 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: trumandogz

Alas, that is really the only remedy.


29 posted on 04/06/2009 1:57:23 PM PDT by ex91B10 (This Space Available! Great Rates!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

First, there is no provision in law for a Do-Over election.

Second, if such a precedent were enacted, we would have a future of every close or clouded election going to a do over.


30 posted on 04/06/2009 2:00:49 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: ex91B10

No, it’s not. The Democrats have known for decades that battles are won on perception. A special election may never and likely will never happen but the stink you cause can so assure you a victory in the next election that the fight is worth it.

Never discount the methods of the opposition just because you abhor their beliefs.


31 posted on 04/06/2009 2:02:53 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: trumandogz

Then by your definition, fraud is A-OK here (well, as long as some culprit is “prosecuted” (ha) long after the theft has occurred and the goal has been reached). These two elections were the difference between a trillion dollar bailout being foisted on the American public and it being stopped. I call that a coup d’etat. What do you call it ?

(Oh, and for Congressional offices, there is a provision, it’s called a special election. So, yes, a “do-over” can occur here - and should).


32 posted on 04/06/2009 2:07:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: trumandogz

We’re doing several things that are not in the Constitution. Libtards care nothing for the document so we need to fight back any way we can. Iraqi elections are more free and fair than ours.

I say screw em! We need a special election and give Begich the boot, then replace Stevens next time around.


33 posted on 04/06/2009 2:09:58 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: trumandogz

PoLL is a at the bottom of the juneau empire homepage


34 posted on 04/06/2009 2:12:22 PM PDT by steptoe
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“So, yes, a “do-over” can occur here - and should).”

I agree. We should do it next week and blindside ACORN.


35 posted on 04/06/2009 2:19:23 PM PDT by 1035rep ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: steptoe
Short answer - NO, it was a legal election and legitimately won by Sen. Mark Begich by the majority of cast votes.

Now in Minnesota, given all of the shenanigans - maybe i can be persuaded!

36 posted on 04/06/2009 2:24:30 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: SES1066
ILlegitimately.
37 posted on 04/06/2009 2:42:26 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I call it a failure by the AK GOP for once again nominating the Senior Senator and a error by Stevens by pushing for a trial prior to the election.


38 posted on 04/06/2009 3:05:12 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

That’s the state party’s failure (but we did not put up a first-tier challenger to Stevens) and we also tried to dislodge Don Young as well, but a 2nd challenger ran interference for Young and he was renominated by a hair. But Young was not indicted on false charges for the general, and again, it doesn’t change the fact this election was stolen by fraud by the “Justice” Department itself on behalf of the Democrats. Coup d’etat.


39 posted on 04/06/2009 3:10:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yes, Ted got a raw deal from the DOJ but I am not buying the claim that The AG led a coup.


40 posted on 04/06/2009 3:16:17 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: steptoe

begich’s seat will be forever tainted


41 posted on 04/06/2009 3:21:48 PM PDT by steptoe
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To: 1035rep

Begich will be forever tainted


42 posted on 04/06/2009 3:21:49 PM PDT by steptoe
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To: trumandogz

Never said the AG led a coup (though not to say he didn’t). I know very little about Mukasey other than he clearly had little control over his department and was barely on the job a year, scarcely enough time to familiarize yourself with the mechanations. But several of Dubya’s cabinet secretaries, especially in his 2nd term, were incompetent. But still, this occurred on Mukasey’s watch. Either he knew this was a fishing expedition or people in the department were lying to him (the latter is certainly likely, but it could’ve also occurred in tandem with the former).

But calling it a raw deal is ridiculous. This was a deliberate criminal conspiracy (or worse, a consensus) by leftist agents within the Justice Department. Ditto with the set-ups of Burns and with ex-Congressman Curt Weldon.


43 posted on 04/06/2009 3:35:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I know very little about Mukasey other than he clearly had little control over his department and was barely on the job a year, scarcely enough time to familiarize yourself with the machinations.

However, I am sure Mukasey was competent enough to follow-up when the memo entitled "Hey Boss, I am about to indict a sitting United States Senator" rolled across his desk.

44 posted on 04/06/2009 5:30:14 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: 1035rep

“We should do it next week and blindside ACORN.”

lol


45 posted on 04/06/2009 5:31:10 PM PDT by steptoe
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To: trumandogz

Apparently he wasn’t.


46 posted on 04/06/2009 5:34:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: steptoe

Now in Minnesota, given all of the shenanigans


47 posted on 04/06/2009 8:49:38 PM PDT by steptoe
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To: traderrob6

recallbegich.ning.com

Yes, we can do it or at least raise hell! Please help us get the word out!


48 posted on 11/02/2009 11:05:37 PM PST by Alaska Woman (begich recall alaska)
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