Posted on 03/23/2009 8:28:25 PM PDT by DrGop0821
The Missouri report essentially warns people of the dangers of the Missouri Militia because they support Libertarian candidates. Huh?
Beck and Paul point out that these groups are harmless and the real danger are home-grown terrorists.
They are kind of tongue in cheek, but the point is clear: why does government hate these "militias"?
Visit Missouri Militia to decide for yourself if they are a threat.
Maybe they are simply a threat to Obama's National Citizen's Security Force currently being pieced together at both the Defense Department and in Congress.
Ron Paul on Glenn Beck on the Fox News Channel about militias in Missouri report.
Here's the full story.
Governor Jay Nixon and the Missouri Highway Patrol are in hot water with many citizens after a report connecting former presidential candidates Ron Paul, Bob Barr and vice-presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin to terrorism and subversive activities was leaked earlier this month, says Catherine Bliesh, executive director of the Liberty Restoration Project.
Bliesh's organization filed FOIA requests with the Missouri Highway Patrol, State Emergency Management Agency and Governor Jay Nixon's office that seek disclosure on exactly how the state police arrived at the decision to brand third party or even some mainstream party candidates like Ron Paul as subversive. Daniel Gerke, Clinton organizer for Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty, said whenever you are profiled and connected to cop killings and extremist groups it is personally upsetting.
“But I haven't removed my Campaign for Liberty bumper sticker. It bothers me that they are targeting political activists,” Gerke said. It is naive to think that things like this, which harken back to the infiltrations of protest groups in the 60s, aren't going on, he said. “But it is disturbing when you actually see it.”
The MIAC report, which is labeled unclassified – law enforcement sensitive, was released to the Alex Jones Show last week by a law enforcement officer attending a conference in Kansas City.
The report suggests that bumper stickers and publications showing support for Ron Paul, the Libertarian Party, the Campaign for Liberty, and political organizations not in the mainstream may be “political paraphernalia” used by members of radical militant groups. The report also considers anti-abortion signage, documentaries such as Freedom to Fascism, the Gadsden Flag, and signage critical of the Federal Reserve Bank to be propaganda and possible indications of paramilitary extremism.
“I realize that there are people who will dismiss this kind of story as insignificant. They shouldn’t,” said Chuck Baldwin. “This is very serious and should be treated as such. Anyone who knows anything at all about history knows that before a state or national government can persecute– and commit acts of violence against– a group of people, they must first marginalize the group from society’s mainstream and categorize it as dangerous.”
The only active Missouri based militia identified in the document is the Missouri Militia. According to the Missouri Militia's web site, they fill the roll of the un-organized militia called for in Missouri's Constitution.
“The photo they used of a guy sitting down with a gun is a guy that is not in any dangerous militia,” Bliesh said.
Militia Commander Randy Sumpter said, “We're here for the community. I have engineers, lawyers, schoolteachers and people from all walks of life in the militia. We're not anti-government.”
These people that wrote the report didn't come out to our meetings or talk to us, Sumpter said.
“Some of the people in militia would be in the National Guard or Army Reserves if commitment wasn't so high. We're open to anybody,” Sumpter said. “We've had the Missouri Highway Patrol come out to one of our meetings. If they had known we were in existence before that girl was kidnapped from Target in Kansas City, they would have called us out. We practice looking for a lost person.”
Our meetings are open, he said. “Anybody can come out and see what we are about.”
Spokesmen for the Missouri Highway Patrol say the report may have been poorly phrased, but it wasn't intended for general release.
“It’s giving the makeup of militia members and their political beliefs,” said Lt. John Hotz. “It’s not saying that everybody who supports these candidates is involved in a militia. It’s not even saying that all militias are bad.”
However, the Associated Press reported that Tim Neal, a delegate to the 2008 Missouri Republican state convention said, “If a police officer is pulling me over with my family in the car and he sees a bumper sticker on my vehicle that has been specifically identified as one that an extremist would have in their vehicle, the guy is probably going to be pretty apprehensive and not thinking in a rational manner.”
All the L Ron Paul supporters I have talked to face to face along with many who post on FR believe like the far left that the American gov. was responsible for 9/11
or if muslims attacked us, we asked for it.
Many libertarian sites go into the Alex Jones, Rockwell, and other blame America First crowd.
Libertarians are 9/11 truthers, anti war, legalize marajuana, global warmers, etc.
They are Neo Left wing.
Scratch a (retarded) liberal, find a Paulbot.
Ok, they’ve issued an “apology” for this. I didn’t pay much attention to it but it wasn’t their “intention” to tar so many folks with the same brush.
That’s a pretty broad generalization and completely unfounded!
You can’t have it both ways.
All the L Ron Paul supporters-: ALL, are you sure.. all
becuase I am a Ron Paul supporter and I don’t believe the 9/11 nonsense, and I don’t totally believe in marijuana legalization (though I do lean that way, espcially with medicinal mj), I DEFINATELY do not believe in Globull warming, and I do believe Congress shouldn’t be policing the world, conducting wars without a “Declaration”..However I know the practicalties of the world of totally pulling out unilaterally is not reasonalbe, but yes I do lean Monrovian-Washingtoninan in foreign policy:
I’d say you need to get your sterotypes right, brother!
All the L Ron Paul supporters I have talked to face to face
along with many who post on FR
You may not believe in some of Paul’s, Baldwin’s etc. beliefs but those are many of their core beliefs.
Just ignore him, don’t waste your breath. The Paul haters are just as rabid as Bush haters on DU.
He, they may believe ending the “war on drugs”, and be anti-war, but they are certainly not Left Liberal, and do not blieve in Global Warming, nor 9/11 truth (the real fringe).
It is better the read the label before you drink the KoolAid
I haven’t drunk anything: Maybe you have.. I seem to recal you’re the one that (instead) of engaging in debate why you don’t like a pol constantly calls the one’s you don’t like names..trying to ‘marginalize’ them?
Mind you I am trying to be respectful to you in what I said above, but just saying..
There are adult conservatives who have the experience and background,
Sandy is not one of them.
Many of his first tier views are the opposit of true conservatives.
Both Sandy and Paul shoud be up front and change their registration to Libertarian which they both are.
Do the research.
I have and once again I don’t agree with everything they stand for, but by and large they fit the “old-school”/libertarian model. I have NO problem with this as my views can be viewed as “fusionist” wheras I believe in the princples of RR Conservativsm and Libertarianism (minus the so callled “social libertarianism-liberalism” and Constitutionalism (infact I believe the Constitution-strict aherence toward) is the “glue” that binds libertarianism and conservatism. I like Sanford, not perfect, but is one of “our better governors” I’d rather us not make anyone on our side personal enemies, we should try to convice them to come our way if they are wrong!
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