Posted on 03/02/2009 11:59:45 PM PST by tcrlaf
The number 1 recc'd Diary at Daily KOS (Lamestream media chat site) is an article about our responses to Obama's release of Secret documents pertaining to the War today, under the title above. (I refuse to give KOS the hits by linking, it's on the front page if you want to read it.)
Given how KOS diaries seem to magicly end up as MSM pundit talking points within hours, I think we better be informed of this.
It goes on like this:
"As an attorney who spent her formative practice years defending the Constitution, all I can say about what I have read thus far is this: those "legal" memos make me ill.
As an American who wants to know what her government is doing (and has done), all I can say is: Thank you, President Obama and Attorney General Holder for bringing these disgraceful documents to the light of day.
Republican leaders: You have a duty to stop this. Sen. McConnell, Rep. Boehner, RNC Chairman Steele: Denounce this. Seriously.
noweasels's diary :: :: And, also as an American, I feel honor bound to bring to a wider audience the disgusting, hateful and dangerous reaction to the the release of those memos memorialized (if one can use such a benign word) today at Free Republic.
Yes, its Free Republic. And yes, it is likely that most of those posting there are arm-chair warriors, bloviating from whatever small bunkers they inhabit, while waving Confederate flags and cheering Rush Limbaugh; but, even for Free Republic, the comments I read today in response to our Attorney Generals decision to release memos that were themselves recanted by the Bush Administration, were beyond horrifying. And, in their own way, dangerous."
They go on to quote several of the posts on KOS. Especially siting THIS ONE:
"please, someone get this trojan virus in the crosshairs, and soon."
IMO, NONE of the comments sited on KOS constitute a "Call to Violence", but take note of the following:
-"weasels, I've forwarded your diary to my cousin in the FBI. he's a solid dude and will do the right thing. thanks for bringing this to our attention."
-"I hope the Sercret Service has agents reading these posts"
-"FreeRepubli is hard core kkk...These punks are the ones who will show up with a burning cross at night with hoods. DON'T FEAR THEM,DEFEAT IS THE ANSWER!!"
-"These people are spewing the same fundamentalist garbage they hate Muslims for. They have become their own jihadists. They are a danger to the Union and need to be called into account."
As for the Author, this is her/he/it's description of itself dated Nov 2,2008:
"I am very fortunate to live with my 78-year-old Mom. Weve lived together since 2000, when my beloved Dad (her beloved husband of 49 years) died very suddenly and I got divorced"
I make no judgements of he/she/it, I'll leave that to you!
I have personally testified at the trial of one moronic lib who made threats against Bush, and gave a deposition for another. The Feds take internet threats VERY seriously, and WE don't want to end up marginalized by the media, as DU has been.
As a side note, this is thier opinion of us, AND JIM...
"I've met some of those freepers back in 2001 and '02 out on the streets. There's three or four of them who would come out as counter-protesters.
The three I saw are not people I would ever fear, which included the owner of Free Republic. They were always posting about how many people they were going to get out to the streets online. But when the day arrived, it was always just the same three goofy people.
The response in general from passersby to these clowns was avoidance rather than engagement."
Consider this an "US wathing THEM watching US!" thread!
I can’t do anything but smile, because they can’t understand how we think.
It's pretty funny how KOSholes, for all their whining about 'HUAC', turn into raging McCarthyites at the drop of a hat.
I consider any “violent” post by sign-ups from 2008 and 2009 to be the work of agent provocateurs and trolls.
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I’ve wanted a bunker for years, years!
With a Berm too.
Amazing, the vitriol spewed over the last eight years
is suddenly as nothing...
Well, of course, it’s different when they do it, that’s
patriotic .
What sad, small minded people. I have never been to the KOS site, just never bothered. I guess I’ll have to now, and get their hackles up.
I used to do that to the DUmmies, but they just don’t understand what I post, no fun.
“consider any violent post by sign-ups from 2008 and 2009 to be the work of agent provocateurs and trolls.”
That was my thoughts as well....
Trolls have been trying to make us look bad lately, and they have been as active now as they were during the Campaign.
Remember something, folks...
We are dealing, in many cases, with PAID TROLLS from Democrat orgs, who are expected to make several blg posts, and as many as 100 message board posts a day.
I used to laugh at the phrase “Liberalism is a mental disorder”, but it is painfully obvious that it is in fact the truth. To think that we have people in the executive, and legislative branches, and damn near a majority in the judicial branch is frightening.
Is burning an effigy of a white man that looks like Bush a hate crime?
Watch what you say and how you say it for a while over there. They use a point-system to dermine banning, and length of time as a member is a big part of it.
I’ve had a fairly active ID over there for YEARS, and I can get by with tugging the tiger’s tail, (I’ve started some DOOZY hate-wars over there!) while new sign ups get banned fast.
No, that’s “Burning truth to power.”
Ohhh please. when Bush was in office those asshats would call for violence every other day.
“Is burning an effigy of a white man that looks like Bush a hate crime?”
OF COURSE NOT, silly....
It’s only a crime if you burn a MINORITY figure now!!
CHANGE!
I usually tell them that I am a conservative republican, and invite them into a discussion of issues. most of the time it immediately turns into a hate fest, but occasionally, some of them will at least try to have a discussion.
Who knows maybe we’ll eventually convert one to being a moderate! LOL!!!!
“Ohhh please. when Bush was in office those asshats would call for violence every other day.”
But you have to understand, committing crimes while Democrat is no longer a crime in America.
THEY just care so damn much that they sometimes let there emotions run away with them. This was Vikram Bhuddi’s lame trial excuse for making threats against the President, incitement to riot, and 100’s of counts of ID theft and hacking...
The Federal judge didn’t buy it.
Which is an exrcise in studious self discipline. I laugh at how many of us take these PAID provocateurs seriously.
Most of them would bugger their own parrot anyway.
I would not encourage any chill on 1st amendment rights here.
And if some Freepers lose their cool, that is not cause for , " We need t civilize that Freeper."
Ignore is best, and bait the rest.
“I would not encourage any chill on 1st amendment rights here.”
The guys that run this website can delete posts and users as they please. It’s not a 1st amendment issue.
“Ignore is best, and bait the rest.”
And then ignore them too? I draw the line at incitement to violence.
Sad to say, FReerepublic is most likely #1 on zero’s list to shut down... THAT, is a call to violence in and of itself!
Obama wants violence. Its in the Saul Alinski Manual/ Obagame plan.But its too early for Obama yet, he is not strong enough.
And you will cast no chill on what is said here.
Buahahahahahahaaha!
So, if if you signed up in 2006, you’re good then?
Quite different from being positively active 2-3 years on the forum.
Of course there are also long-term sleepers who don't post anything for years and start trolling.
But sometimes those types of comments about seniority based
membership, almost sound like a union hall, cliquish if you will.
I have to work around this type of thing and hear this type
of thing on a daily basis and it just irks me to no end.
I'm not coming head-on at you friend, it's just that the
seniority slop needs to go out the back door.
Not even if we buy carbon credits first ?
Yep.
You see when they do it is political free speech, when republicans or conservatives finally reach those levels of needing to implement it, it becomes frightening for them.
They know when we start turning out into the streets, start targeting policies that are bad for the country we will win. It is a lot like the little kid that suddenly realizes he is in real trouble with Mom & Dad.
Is it Parody now?
Big Brother Obama Supporters On the Internet Are Watching You (Satire) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2194913/posts
So to those little DU or KOS Kids take your tattle tailing butts and go sit in the corner. Nobody likes a tattletail as it is only whiny little children who tattle. If you can call Bush a Chimp, I can call 0bama a chump! If you can burn the American flag, I can burn all 1400+ pages of the stimulus plan, the 0bama budget plan and any other piece of bad legislation in protest. It is my American, Constitutional Right.
It is just too bad you feel threatened by those who would stand and fight for your Right to burn the American Flag, storm the recruiting offices in Berkley, lob urine & feces bombs at police...Yes, I am describing you, the liberals. Show me a violent protest and you won't find real conservatives there.
We are not calling for violence, but we are calling for resistance. An active, implemented, organized resistance to the fascist take over of America. Conservatives getting organized is frightening to you. I understand this as it means you must be able to defend your policies and positions with reason, logic, and morality. It also means your government handouts might be stopped and your addiction to dependency broken. The drones you have created might start to think. You do have a lot to fear when Conservatives organize.
Unfortunately for you, what you don't realize, don't see going on now is the very policies 0bama puts in place will destroy the producers of wealth in this country. You cheer every destruction of those who produce. If this is allowed to continue you and I will have our liberty curtailed to the point we cannot recover from. 0bama policies have already sold our children and grandchildren into slavery to the government. It is an incredible irony that conservatives helped demand freedom for the slaves and a few hundred years later...conservatives are trying to stop it again.
Well put EBH, I am honored to know you!!
I will ping the Ohio list..(as a FYI).
LVD
I certainly don’t advocate violence, however given the circumstances I certainly expect it, and am doing my best to be prepared for it.
KOS kooks are the ones who call CSPAN day in and day out referring to President Bush as hitler.
They spew lies and invective that is never rational.
The kooks make the madmen at DU seem sane.
There, fixed it..
“Is burning an effigy of a white man that looks like Bush a hate crime?”
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Apparently not. Nor hanging one that looks like Sarah Palin.
I expect late October to be one in which this question comes to the forefront as many Americans “decorate” their home for Halloween.
Dang. I seem to be in need of Confederate flag... maybe "noweasels" can suggest a vendor. You *know* there's a Soviet flag on the wall in his/her residence.
“I certainly dont advocate violence, however given the circumstances I certainly expect it, and am doing my best to be prepared for it.”
I agree 100% with this statement!
LLS
Dr. Sam Vaknin is an Israeli psychologist. Interesting view on our new
president.
Dr. Vaknin has written extensively about narcissism. Dr. Vaknin States “I
must confess I was impressed by Sen.Barack Obama from the first time I saw him.
At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful, spoke
well, appeared to be confident - a wholesome presidential package. I was put
off soon, not just because of his shallowness but also because there was an air
of haughtiness in his demeanor that was unsettling. His posture and his body
language were louder than his empty words. Obama’s speeches are unlike any
political speech we have heard in American history. Never a politician in this
land had such quasi “religious” impact on so many people. The fact
that Obama is a total incognito with zero accomplishment, makes this
inexplicable infatuation alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a
genius. In fact he is quite ignorant on most important subjects.”
Barack Obama is a narcissist.
Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of the Malignant Self Love believes “Barack
Obama appears to be a narcissist.” Vaknin is a world authority on
narcissism. He understands narcissism and describes the inner mind of a
narcissist like no other person. When he talks about narcissism everyone
listens. Vaknin says that Obama’s language, posture and demeanor, and the
testimonies of his closest, dearest and nearest suggest that the Senator is
either a narcissist or he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).
Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the
charismatic leader of People’s Temple, the man who led over 900 of his
followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children
was also a narcissist. David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko
Asahara, Stalin, Saddam, Mao,Kim Jong Ill and Adolph Hitler are a few examples
of narcissists of our time. All these men had a tremendous influence over their
fanciers. They!
created a personality cult around themselves and with their blazing speeches
elevated their admirers, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in
their minds a new zest for life. They gave them hope! They promised them the
moon, but alas, invariably they brought them to their doom. When you are a
victim of a cult of personality, you don’t know it until it is too late.
One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse.
“Obama’s early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic
and mentally bruising dislocations,” says Vaknin. “Mixed-race
marriages were even less common then. His parents went through a divorce when
he was an infant (two years old). Obama saw his father only once again, before
he died in a car accident. Then his mother re-married and Obama had to relocate
to Indonesia, a foreign land with a radically foreign culture, to be raised by a
step-father. At the age of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal
(white)grandparents. He saw his mother only intermittently in the following few
years and then she vanished from his life in 1979. She died of cancer in
1995”.
One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of pathological
narcissists. They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms
those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become
like clay in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and delight to be at
his service. The narcissist shapes the world around himself and reduces others
in his own inverted image. He creates a cult of personality. His admirers
become his co-dependents. Narcissists have no interest in things that do not
help them to reach their personal objective. They are focused on one thing
alone and that is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and they do
not want to waste their precious time on trivialities. Anything that does not
help them is beneath them and do not deserve their attention.
If an issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one way or another, he
has no interest in it. The “present” vote is a safe vote. No one can
criticize him if things go wrong. Those issues are unworthy by their very
nature because they are not about him. Obama’s election as the first black
president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a
book about race relations. The University of Chicago Law School provided him a
lot longer than expected and at the end it evolved into, guess what? His own
autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race relations,
for which he had been paid, Obama could not resist writing about his most
sublime self. He entitled the book Dreams from My Father.
Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he was
still nobody. So did Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as important as
his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and genius writing about
insignificant things when he can write about such an august being as himself?
Narcissists are often callous and even ruthless. As the norm, they lack
conscience. This is evident from Obama’s lack of interest in his own
brother who lives on only one dollar per month.
A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to vacation in Hawaii, and
who has raised nearly half a billion dollars for his campaign (something
unprecedented in history) has no interest in the plight of his own brother.
Why? Because, his brother cannot be used for his ascent to power.
A narcissist cares for no one but himself. This election is like no other in
the history of America. The issues are insignificant compared to what is at
stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a
serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the
leader of the free world? I hate to sound alarmist, but one is a fool if one is
not alarmed. Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to
others...They are simply self serving and selfish.
Obama evidences symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different from
the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or a Bill Clinton for example.
To him reality and fantasy are intertwined. This is a mental health issue, not
just a character flaw. Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look
normal and even intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them treacherous.
Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in Obama. But this man could
put an end to their party. The great majority of blacks have also decided to
vote for Obama. Only a fool does not know that their support for him is
racially driven. This is racism, pure and simple. The downside of this is that
if Obama turns out to be the disaster I predict, he will cause widespread
resentment among the whites.
The blacks are unlikely to give up their support of their man. Cultic
mentality is pernicious and unrelenting. They will dig their heads deeper in
the sand and blame Obama’s detractors of racism. This will cause a backlash
among the whites.
The white supremacists will take advantage ofthe discontent and they will
receive widespread support. I predict that in less than four years, racial
tensions will increase to levels never seen since the turbulent 1960’s.
Obama will set the clock back decades... America is the bastion of freedom.
The peace of the world depends on the strength of America, and its weakness
translates into the triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations.
It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Castrists, the Hezbollah,
the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists and virtually all sworn
enemies of America are so thrilled by the prospect of their man in the White
House. America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater
than electing a pathological narcissist as president.
I’ve had my company website reviewed by the midget at dailykos. I’ve ‘seen it’ via our website manager, and I can only conclude its a result of my posting in conservative forums.
It was two years ago this began to occur.
I wonder when Dr. Phil will have this guy on his show to discuss O’s narcissisn? /s
Please don't soil JimRob's house.
The idea that Obama is NPD has not been lost on many foreign investors. They are not interested in investing in Obama’s ‘agenda’ because there would be no ROE.
This is going to get ugly.
They are just angry little trolls that live under the foot bridge. Ignore them until they come out is day light. Then I think they melt on their own.
“Ive wanted a bunker for years, years!”
Me too! I remember the good old days when you could buy a bomb shelter that looked like a submarine and bury it in the back yard.
I think I’ll research how to turn a basement into a bunker. I bet it could be done fairly cheaply.
I am proud of your early analysis.
Or hanging a Palin-look alike dummy “in effigy” at Halloween?
In the real world, that’s a big YES. But to leftists, anything they do is A-OK while we, on the other hand, are held to much higher standards of behavior.
It’s that usual leftist double standard workin there, dontcha know.
He’s a muslim, so what else could we expect?
Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as their right.
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet gets by by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Other Related Qualities:
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victims life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victims affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)
Thanks EBH! Well said.
I have personally testified at the trial of one moronic lib who made threats against Bush, and gave a deposition for another. The Feds take internet threats VERY seriously, and WE don't want to end up marginalized by the media, as DU has been.
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