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To: Gemsbok
How could it be possible that upon the simple seduction of an American woman that a son of a Hitler, Mussolini, Lenin, Stalin, Pol-Pot, Ayatollah Khomeni, or any other evil US enemy could look up from Hell to see their spawn as the leader of the free world within America?

Because we Americans do not hold the child responsible for the sins of the father, at least not when it comes to the Constitutional qualification to be President.

If, in some far-fetched scenario, an American woman was impregnanted by Saddam Hussein, that child would almost certainly be Constitutionally-qualified to be President.

17 posted on 12/19/2008 11:27:47 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: Citizen Blade; Gemsbok
Because we Americans do not hold the child responsible for the sins of the father, at least not when it comes to the Constitutional qualification to be President.

No "sin" is in question, only a familial allegiance to a foreign power. And, actually, we Americans did protect against such foreign influence. From 1776 up until the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868, these children would not have even been considered "citizens" in any form of the word (let alone eligible as natural-born citizens for POTUS). Naturalization was required for citizenship. And even after that, from 1868 up until the Supreme Court decision in Wong Kim Ark in 1898, thirty years later, denial of citizenship was arguably common. That's a 122 years of precedent requiring naturalization of these youths. Following Wong Kim Ark, for the last 110 years, these youths were irrefutably recognized as "citizens of the United States", but no claim to a natural-allegiance to this nation was granted in that decision. Ergo, despite the opinions and desires of some, citizen by virtue of birth on U.S. soil does not equate historically or legally to a natural-born status. It's a safety-vest I would not casually toss aside, and I hope the Supreme Court would not as well.
30 posted on 12/19/2008 11:59:26 AM PST by so_real
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To: Citizen Blade

Why are you so quick and eager to forfeit the reins of the Presidency and the Republic at this point in time.

It is not a matter of political parties or affiliation.

We all know that a Democrat Congress will choose another leftist to fill the opening, but at least it will be a qualified American.

The qualifications will remain intact, and that is essential.


38 posted on 12/19/2008 12:38:58 PM PST by Gemsbok (If wishes were horses, than beggars would ride.)
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