Posted on 12/19/2008 10:36:11 AM PST by Gemsbok
That statement in no way implies that those are the only people who qualify as NBC’s. Everyone in the category is a NBC, but not all NBC’s fall into that category (all poodles are dogs, but not all dogs are poodles)
LET THE 3 BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT IGNORE ARTICLE II , SECTION 1.
The people do not ignore it, and we have the means at our disposal to reject any usurper. As a people can sh~~t as many such candidates as are proferred by these idiots.
“Why are you so quick and eager to forfeit the reins of the Presidency and the Republic at this point in time.”
Oh, I don’t know, because we just had an election? That’s usually the time someone else takes the reins.
“According to the Constitution, one must be born in the US of two parents who were US citizens at the time of one’s birth.”
One must be born in the US of two parents who were US citizens at the time of one’s birth in order to do what? Be president? The Constitution doesn’t say that. What Constitution have you been reading?
You’re welcome, so_real. Your other comments on this thread are informative, too.
Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, confirms the understanding and construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:
" ... I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents [plural, meaning two] not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen..." (http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx)
"For each presidential candidate, they can put the factual history of their birth in the equation and see if they fit the bill to be president of the U.S. in 2008 under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 and the relevant federal law under U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), and Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939). As you can clearly see, Obama is a U. S. citizen, but he's not a "natural born citizen" and, as such, is not eligible for POTUS, because his father, a Kenyan, was a foreigner. His birth certificate is only relevant to answer the question, "what does Obama have to hide?"
C H A R T at http://www.theobamafile.com/NaturalBornCitizenChart2.htm
U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark's importance is that it is the first case decided by the Supreme Court that attempts to explain the meaning of "natural born citizen" under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution. Natural born citizen is similiar to the meaning of what a natural born subject is under Common Law in England. That is one of the reasons why the framers specifically included a grandfather clause (natural born Citizen OR a Citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution). The founding fathers knew that in order to be president, they had to grandfather themselves in because they were British subjects. If they didn't, they could not be President of the U.S. The holding in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark states that Wong Kim Ark is a native born citizen. If you look at the fact of Wong Kim Ark being born in San Francisco, CA, that holding is correct.
Perkins v. Elg's importance is that it actually gives examples of what a Citizen of the U.S. is; what a native born American Citizen is; and what a natural born citizen of the U.S. is. A natural born citizen is a person who is born of two U.S. citizen parents AND born in the mainland of U.S.
You can go take a look at the excellent chart Beckwith (an attorney) has put together to explain differences in 'citizen'.
IF Barry O’ actually IS inaugurated without verifying his NBC status, the FR might plan a FReep — legally, get the paper work from the Police, etc — at some significant date in the Spring. Carry signs requesting to see his vault birth certificate. March around the Capitol or the Mall or the White House.
Third Monday in April is PATRIOTS DAY. In 2009, it is April 20.
That pretty much says it all,
“”” ... I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution,
that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents[plural, parents] not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen..”””
Thanks for clarifying this.
And did the founders and citizenry elect a gentleman with a dual allegiance to France, England, Spain, or any other European country?
Of course not, their intentions were to avoid all foreign entanglements and all situations and questions of disloyalty to America.
If there was zero evidence, none of these cases would have been forwarded to colleagues for conference in the SCOTUS. But we’ve already covered that ground with you, and your revisiting of it just proves you to be a CoLB Troll. Have fun fiddling while this constitutional republic burns, Nero.
“”So,in your example, Castro’s son could just say he does not know who his father was, and the media would not even try to find out. After all he would not have to show his birth certificate, just like Obama. :)””
Exacto Mundo, the leftist media would go out of their way to coddle or suppress the identiy of the son of a prominent Communist!
After this elections our enemies are likely drooling at the prospects. Before Obama, they knew they could infilitrate our country with spies and see them earn high level governmental positions.
They never dreamed they could groom one of their own to be POTUS!
They never dreamed an Iranian, Cuban, or Russian could be Commander-in-Chief of the greatest military in the world!
What an ironic and laughable day for all Anti-Americans.
Congratulations Muchas, Mister presidendte electo, indeed!
The Global world wildly celebrates the Usurptation of power.
Just as his beloved pastor, mentor, and close friend often said, “God D_mn America,”
And Bill Ayers, as his filthy feet trampled the American flag, “Guilty as sin, and here I stand, only in America!”
“”After this elections our enemies are likely drooling at the prospects. Before Obama, they knew they could infilitrate our country with spies and see them earn high level governmental positions. They never dreamed they could groom one of their own to be POTUS! They never dreamed an Iranian, Cuban, or Russian could be Commander-in-Chief of the greatest military in the world!””
And even funnier, they never dreamed they could run a plant as president who has suppressed all vital records, all educational records, and all employment records and present him as a viable candidate for POTUS!
What a joke and laughable spectacle the USA election process has become to the world.
What a joke it is that hundreds of millions of foreign dollars support an American political candidate.
What a joke it is that a Presidential candidate has the audacity to campaign abroad for other foreign candidates and himself.
What a joke it is that election fraud is bought and paid for by a candidacy and by US taxpayer dollars virtually unchecked and stopped.
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2008 coup 2008
The only people who should be sick of worry are the Obamas and his Obots. One of these cases will get their day in court, which could put the Obama presidency on life support.
And he has many worshipful kneepad sycophants working FR even as we post! I’m sick of these people wiping their nasty behinds with MY Constitution.
And here’s the reply I got from my senator:
Dear Miss———:
Thank you for contacting me regarding President-elect Barack Obama. I appreciate having the benefit of your comments on this matter.
As you know, on January 20, 2009, Barack Obama will be sworn in as the forty-fourth President of the United States of America. As we enter the 111th Congress, our nation faces many challenges. We are in the midst of tough economic times, and the federal government must stand on the side of taxpayers and small businesses. Now more than ever, we need fiscal discipline in Washington. I welcome President-elect Obama’s commitment to reform the federal budget process and rein in wasteful government spending, and I will hold the President-elect accountable as Congress works to quickly identify and eliminate inefficient, ineffective, and outdated federal programs.
Families across Texas and the nation are forced to make tough financial decisions each day—the federal government should be no different. But year after year too many government programs are funded because there are small—but vocal—special interest groups backing them with little Congressional oversight to determine when ideas have run their course. The American people have a right to know how their hard earned dollars are being spent, and I will continue to support making our government more transparent, accountable, and efficient.
While strengthening the economy must remain a priority, we must also find bipartisan solutions to address other critical issues facing our nation while continuing to advance conservative principles such as limited government, lower taxes, family values, and fighting against those who seek to destroy the American way of life. The consequences of continued inaction are too great. It is imperative that Congress act quickly to secure our borders, reform our country’s immigration laws, modernize healthcare, and promote energy independence. You may be certain that I will continue to pursue conservative initiatives that reinforce the principles upon which our country was founded while holding the new Administration accountable to the American people.
I appreciate having the opportunity to represent the interests of Texans in the United States Senate. Thank you for taking the time to contact me.
Sincerely,
JOHN CORNYN
United States Senator
517 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Tel: (202) 224-2934
Fax: (202) 228-2856
http://www.cornyn.senate.gov
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It’s like butting your head up against a brick wall.
I feel like writing him back and saying, but WHAT ABOUT HIS LACK OF A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, A$$HOLE?
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ThanKS, LucyT
Appreciate the updates.
Ping.
“Where does it say that in the Constitution?”
I did not say that it says that in the Constitution. But the meaning of “natural born” is mentioned in various cases which covers the meaning of “natural born”. Please read here: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/
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