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Border Patrol shot at with automatic weapons while uncovering new smuggling tacticís
BorderFireReport ^ | 12/18/08 | Michael Webster, Syndicated Investigative Reporter

Posted on 12/18/2008 12:03:38 PM PST by Sammy67

By Michael Webster, Syndicated Investigative Reporter Early this month U.S. Border Patrol agents from the Tucson, Ariz. sector and agents of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement were again fired upon with what appeared to be military type automatic weapons by Mexican drug smugglers dressed in military garb. Agents after observing a Flatbed tow truck on the Mexican side of the U.S. Mexican border backed up to the new international border fence. According to witnesses the tow truck backed up on a newly constructed earthen dirt berm which put the truck almost even with the height of the fence. The tow truck operator slowly unloaded two trucks laden with marijuana over the 18 ft. high fence to the U.S. side of the border. The entire episode was caught on the remote camera surveillance system and watched by U.S. predator and National Guard camera operators who were able to coordinate Border Patrol field agents to the scene. Shortly after arriving several Border Patrol agents came under fire after

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To: Moonman62

A Predator drone could handle it, couldn’t it?


21 posted on 12/18/2008 12:24:40 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: mad puppy

No wayyyy ,,, those Ramos and Campeon, they shot at an unarmed man. Apparently he is the *only* drug smuggler in the middle of the mexican drug way who is non violent and hates guns.
And we are sure he was unarmed,,, when they talked to him months later, they asked if he had a gun that night and he SWORE that he didnt. Even under oath!

I cant believe you guys doubt the word of a mexican cartel mule, months after the fact, youre so jaded!


22 posted on 12/18/2008 12:26:13 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Sammy67

We should use armed Predator’s (intended) to guard the border.


23 posted on 12/18/2008 12:26:32 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: thackney

“Did no one previously notice them building a dirt berm tall enough to hand stuff over an 18 foot fence?!?!?”

A bulldozer is the only way you could build it quickly. 18 feet (two stories) seems awfully high to build quickly with a bulldozer.


24 posted on 12/18/2008 12:26:48 PM PST by Brookhaven (The Fair Tax is THE economic litmus test for conservatives)
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To: Sammy67
Does the Mex national government promote illegal entry into the U.S. partly because they fear being killed or overthrown by the drug lords? That would slow down those "enforcement" reflexes, wouldn't it? Even without the remittance money from illegals being mailed and transferred from the U.S. to Mexico.

The payoffs and threats from the drug lords may dwarf mere GNP considerations. It looks like a contingent of the army is "bought" as well. Considering how many "no-go" areas of Mexico there are now, I just wouldn't be surprised.

25 posted on 12/18/2008 12:26:54 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: TonyStark
¡Izquierdo, izquierdo, derecho, izquierdo!

¿La mama, mama puede usted ver?

¡Qué el ejército ha hecho a mí!
26 posted on 12/18/2008 12:27:39 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot (No better friend, no worse enemy)
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To: WayneS

Several years ago, the State Asst Governor was gunned down on the Toll Road between Ensenada and Tijuana, near the movie Studios where they shot Master and Commander/Titannic.


27 posted on 12/18/2008 12:29:12 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: WayneS

It probably could, but I like A10’s and the sight of one would probably give them coronaries and deter others.


28 posted on 12/18/2008 12:35:44 PM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

Better throw the Border Patrol Agent in jail, freakin racist ...


29 posted on 12/18/2008 12:36:54 PM PST by Scythian
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To: Brookhaven
Is this not a “double fence” with a no-man’s land in between? Who would be dumb enough to build a single fence and expect it to actually keep anyone out?

Actually, this episode highlights two sorts of stupidity. First, it shows that a fence is most likely ineffective in the first place, whether single or double. The time required to build an "earthen dirt berm" of the size required to accomplish their tactics was not insignificant: it took hours or even days.

Second, however, despite their obviously enterprising attitude, the stupidity of the smugglers cannot be overstated. If they've got earth-movers big enough to build this berm in a timely manner, why not just use them to drive through the fence?

On second thought, perhaps the smugglers weren't so stupid after all. Nothing better than an eye-catching display like this to distract attention from the real crossing point....

The smugglers know, after all, that it's a lot easier for them to pick their crossing spots, than for the Border Patrol to handle them.

30 posted on 12/18/2008 12:37:09 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Sammy67

This looks like an invasion to me. How about an airborne response next time - at least it will keep the Mexican Army from having to torch the vehicles...
I say we take a chapter from the Israel border enforcement on the Gaza Strip.


31 posted on 12/18/2008 12:40:33 PM PST by texrepub76
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To: r9etb
Is there any other kind of dirt berm than the 'earthen' kind?

Trash berm?

32 posted on 12/18/2008 12:40:36 PM PST by MovementConservative (Not a Bush Republican, a Limbaugh/Levin conservative.)
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To: r9etb

“Is there any other kind of dirt berm than the ‘earthen’ kind? “

You sod! Don’t soil yourself fretting over the difference between earth and dirt!


33 posted on 12/18/2008 12:45:53 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: r9etb
First, it shows that a fence is most likely ineffective in the first place, whether single or double.

Fencing cannot be 100% effective, but it is a significant improvement. The builders of the 'better mousetrap' have to be people of significant means. If the fence isn't 100% effective at stopping drug smugglers, it's pretty good at slowing them and probably really effective at stopping jumpers(especially those with families in tow.)
If we wanted to cripple the Mexican drug cartels, we'd have to cut their main source of funds. That would mean decriminalizing and regulating marijuana.

34 posted on 12/18/2008 12:46:14 PM PST by MovementConservative (Not a Bush Republican, a Limbaugh/Levin conservative.)
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To: Sammy67

I’m not sure, but I think this website’s assault on the English language might be more destructive than the waves of illegal immigrants and bilingual education combined.


35 posted on 12/18/2008 12:46:41 PM PST by xjcsa (And these three remain: change, hope and government. But the greatest of these is government.)
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To: Sammy67

Another war we are in but which we don’t fight.

If we just ripped the hell out of some of these vehicles, they might get the message. Oh, and if the people happen to be too close, oops!


36 posted on 12/18/2008 12:58:03 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (What's Obama's Secret?)
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To: Moonman62

You got THAT right!

The Warthog is a scary critter.


37 posted on 12/18/2008 12:59:36 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: MovementConservative
If we wanted to cripple the Mexican drug cartels, we'd have to cut their main source of funds. That would mean decriminalizing and regulating marijuana.

Ok, let's grant that for the sake of argument. And by the same token, if you wanted to deal with illegal immigration you would ... what?

Following on your approach with drugs, wouldn't one way to handle illegal immigration be to regulate cross-border labor in a manner that makes illegal border-crossing not worth the trouble....?

At any rate, you didn't mention that illegal immigration or illegal drugs are nothing more than folks acting to meet a demand that exists north of the border. The driver for both problems is Americans who are willing to pay for illegal stuff -- be it drugs or labor. Deal with the demand side, and the supply side takes care of itself....

38 posted on 12/18/2008 1:22:24 PM PST by r9etb
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To: MovementConservative
If we wanted to cripple the Mexican drug cartels, we'd have to cut their main source of funds. That would mean decriminalizing and regulating marijuana.

All drugs should be available in the marketplace. The only problem is those on the payroll for the WOD, (the real reason for the WOD being the payroll), are not going to give up their hold on the taxpayers money.

39 posted on 12/18/2008 1:26:59 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


40 posted on 12/18/2008 1:28:42 PM PST by gubamyster
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