Posted on 10/29/2008 10:04:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
We’re utterly fascinated by this.
In 2004, we don’t remember hearing about anyone scared Kerry was going to take their guns away - and we worked Pennsylvania for Kerry (Pittsburgh area). There were a lot of gun shops and firing ranges there, and we never heard anything about people stocking up on guns because they were scared Kerry was going to try to take them away.
Obama is perceived as more liberal than Kerry, and in fact the most liberal Democrat that’s run for president in as long as anyone can remember. Biden as VP makes this the most liberal ticket that Democrats have ever fielded. There is nothing about it that puts the bitter, gun-and-relgion-people-who-are-apathetic-to-those-not-like-them living in Pennsylvania at ease.
Absolutely nothing.
In fact, the thought of Obama becoming president freaks these people out. So much so that they’re stocking up on firearms.
We just don’t see how this can bode well for Obama. These are “Reagan Democrats” and Republicans. They’re Clinton Democrats too. And they recoil at the thought of an Obama administration.
Have you ever heard of anything like this? We checked, and can’t see any evidence of this in past elections — where the Democrat so freaked rural, working class, sportsman types out that they felt compelled to stock up on weapons to protect themselves.
We think this is a piece of a larger puzzle…one that’s becoming much more clear as we inch closer to November 4th:
(1) Democrats like us at HillBuzz are working with Republicans for the first time in our lives to elect John McCain/Sarah Palin because we do not like or trust Obama/Biden.
(2) Hillary Democrats not openly working for McCain are silently voting for him — and voting Republican for the first time in their lives in most cases.
(3) Early voting has not met Obama’s expectations — Republicans are tied or ahead in most states, and nowhere is Obama enjoying blowout advantages he claimed he’d have.
(4) In all states, there is a marked “enthusiasm gap” between support for Obama and support remembered for Kerry in 2004 or Gore in 2000…lack of yard signs, stickers, posters, and excitement to vote for Obama, despite what the media claims.
(5) Gun owners afraid of Obama, and stocking up on weapons because they are that freaked out by the thought of anyone voting for him.
We’d love your thoughts on that last one, as we think it could be a cultural barometer like the Family Circle cookie baking contest or Halloween mask sales — something that shows a large scale cultural like or dislike of a candidate.
All of these anecdotal signs point to a McCain win…with those gun sales being the most fascinating of all.
Because those gun owners are the heart of the country. If Obama hasn’t won them over, and instead seems to have driven them away, screaming, then we just don’t see how he wins.
There's a video at the link from a TV news station.
I hope that the Republican Party learns just how important the gun owners vote is and begins to reverse the gun laws that are on the books now that do nothing but harm law abiding Americans.
I won’t hold my breath though... at least someone sees what is going on.
Mike
They’re right. The evidence is right in front of us. We ALL see it. We ALL have that ‘anecdotal’ evidence that shows that nobody’s voting for Obama. We’ve all seen the lines at the gun store. Those of us who never had a gun before have all gone to get one.
Our instincts are right on this. The polls are wrong. (I hope!...lol)
Democrats keep nominating MORE and MORE liberal candidates.
Gore in 2000 was more liberal than Clinton; Kerry in 2004 was more liberal than Gore; and in 2008 they nominate a freakin’ Marxist like Obama.
They never learn!
I’m betting President Palin will fight for the RTKBA.
Someone had better. Some of the stuff I’ve seen and heard has been quite scary. I’d like to avoid a repeat of 1860 if at all possible.
Mike
This is a good comment to hear from you 2ndDivisionVet.
I trust your judgement. Will the PUMA’S make that much of a difference and help pull McCain/Palin over the finish line?
Of course the polls are wrong. When they poll up to 15%(cBS) more Dems nationally, you know that's unrealistic.
And if NObama wins, I hope that a lot of other people learn just how important my gun owership right is. Could be a lesson to be learned, the hard way.
I have to say they have really been doing their part.
What alarms me is this Obama “Victory” mass celebration
planned for Chicago. Sqeeze a million folks into a city center, pump them up for hours, then let disappointment, disillusionment and rage work them over and it has every chance of turning out horrifically. Then again the left
has to know this and is willing to use fear and terror
as a political tool. Well, we knew this but it is going
to be a shock to the body politic.
Here’s several millions (minimum) of PUMAs, etc..
Hillary Clinton Supporters For John McCain:
http://www.hcsfjm.com
Party Unity My A$$ PAC/People United Means Action PAC:
http://blog.pumapac.org
Democrats Against Obama/Nobama ever!
http://democrats-against-obama.org
Just Say No Deal:
http://justsaynodeal.com
http://blog.pumapac.org/
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/di...
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
http://thatsmeontheleft.blogspot.com/
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
http://savagepolitics.com/
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/
http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/
http://thenewagenda.net/
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/
http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/
http://clintondems.com/
http://www.hireheels.com/
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
http://anvp.typepad.com/
http://globallabor.blogspot.com/
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/
http://liberalrapture.com/
http://logisticsmonster.com/
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/
http://www.partizane.com/
http://chicagoagainstobama.wordpress....
http://donnadarko.wordpress.com/
http://redhotandbluepolitics.com/
http://themountainsage.wordpress.com/
http://paganpower.wordpress.com/
http://deadenders.wordpress.com/
http://ascrivenerslament.blogspot.com/
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potp...
http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_...
http://sugarnspice.typepad.com/
http://comealongway.wordpress.com/
http://reddragon62.blogspot.com/
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/
http://dakiniland.wordpress.com/
http://vbonnaire.wordpress.com/
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
http://ohmyvalve.blogspot.com/
http://doublejointedfingers.blogspot....
http://budwhite.wordpress.com/
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
http://texashillblog.wordpress.com/
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wo...
http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/
http://madamab.wordpress.com/
http://gaffenation.wordpress.com/
http://www.hillaryis44.org/
http://elizabitchez.blogspot.com/
http://ladyboomernyc.wordpress.com/
http://stateofdisbelief.wordpress.com/
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/
http://annienyc.blogspot.com/
http://clintondems.com/
http://www.writehillaryin.com/
http://drslogan.wordpress.com/
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
http://pumaparty.com/turndownobama/
http://thepinkflamingo.blogharbor.com...
http://free-us-now.com/
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
http://www.americasright.com/
http://hillaryclintonnews.blogspot.com/
http://demsmoveon.blogspot.com/
Take a look around these sites for a half hour or 45 minutes....(there are hundreds more linked to these, just look for links)
unkus ... this is a VERY SHORT, PARTIAL LIST!!!!
Thank you very much 2ndDivisionVet.
YOU are the one doing Yoemans work!-— And that’s from a Grunt, by the way.
Thanks, say some prayers.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Since I live in the polar opposite of Chicago (Dallas/Ft. Worth) I frankly don’t care. If they tear their own community apart in rage, I’m sure that you & I will pay to rebuild it, but other than that — have at it!
Since I live in the polar opposite of Chicago (Dallas/Ft. Worth) I frankly don’t care. If they tear their own community apart in rage, I’m sure that you & I will pay to rebuild it, but other than that — have at it!
Since I live in the polar opposite of Chicago (Dallas/Ft. Worth) I frankly don’t care. If they tear their own community apart in rage, I’m sure that you & I will pay to rebuild it, but other than that — have at it!
Some food for thought...
1) Congress is contemplating a $300B spending bill as an economic stimulus package. Charlie Rangle had one republican at the hearing who wants lower taxes and smaller government. Everyone treated him like he was first prize at a turkey shoot, ripping his backside up one side an down the other. They want to spend that money on municipal construction projects to get the economy moving, like in the Great Society. That’s great if we still lived in the economy of the 50s and/or you’re a construction worker with no job. Everyone else who is living in the information age and is unemployed, which is probably the greater portion, can just go take a hike.
2) I found a blurb about how Obama wants to take part of that $700B Paulson abomination and use it to take over failed mortgages, turn those houses into HUD section-8 and relocate inner city people into them. So, you’re in the information age, lost your job, get kicked out of the house you’ve worked your rear off for until the governemnt’s blunders made it impossible, and Obama’s got some welfare recipient lined up to move in. Nice, huh?
If he gets elected and does half of the things he says he will, there’s going to be stuff coming down. That’s why people are stocking up.
For now.....
There is no honor among thieves.
If he wins, BO and Congress will hit us “early and often” and the shock affect will be hard to counter.People will be too confused to react immediately. Typical commie tactics.
Thank you so much for all this information.
We just can’t have the government purposely destroying people, using that destruction as an excuse to confiscate their property to give to someone who never wanted to work for it, and not have plenty of angry unemployed and homeless white collar dudes. Anyone remember Shay’s Rebellion?
We just can’t have the government purposely destroying people, using that destruction as an excuse to confiscate their property to give to someone who never wanted to work for it, and not have plenty of angry unemployed and homeless white collar dudes.
I still have to stock up on ammo. There is certainly a real fear of what 0bama would do as president. Every one seems to have an uneasy feeling about him.
The point of bringing up Shay’s is that kind of hostility toward the citizenry breeds and feeds unrest. If what I think I see happening is part of some grand design, rather than just sheer stupidity, we’re going to be in for turbulent times the likes of which we have not seen since the civil war.
Any if he does win, those guns may come in handy when the Jackbooted storm troopers come to get them.
Let’s see, in the last two weeks I have renewed my NRA membership and sighted in both of my 1903 Springfields. Next week I’m going to Camp Perry/CMP store and probably gonna pick up an M1 Garand.
And about 1000 rounds of 30.06 ammo. For starters.
In one election cycle, the Democrat Party will do to this country what the Soviet Union couldn’t do in fifty years.
Well, I’ve added a Savage Arms 10 in .308 with a big fat target barrel. Too bad I can’t get any range time to sight it in.
Maybe such an event can clean up their political climate.
If no one thought obama would win, no one would be standing in lines at the gunshops.
Unfortunatly, there are those who would vote for obama but buy a gun before the election so they can dump it later when the prices go up.
I have not bought any more guns, ammo is another matter.
Remember, the Clintons went after the primers and the ammo. We have a right to bear arms, nothing says that the government cannot play with how many rounds we own.
I think you hit it correctly.
The libs will not try to take our guns from us. They will do it in a stealth way to make them impotent by tackling the Ammo first. When I lived in California several years ago, they had proposed a tax of a nickel on every shell.
Taxes on ammunition will have the same effect of taking away firearms by making them useless.
The libs will claim they are not violating the second amendment.
Every time I pass a sporting goods store i buy more rounds. We will need to stock up on them.
People will protect themselves, as necessary. The fact that gun sales are increasing shows that folks do not trust the potential Hussein government and expect they will need to defend themselves from domestic enemies of the Constitution.
Just remember, he is not elected yet, folks. You can make a difference on 4 November.
JoMa
Look into The Frankfurt School for the early planning stages. Their minions brought us consensus-building, sensitivity training, and infiltrated our education system, churches and the Democrat party. This has been an intentionally executed plan, and it's at fruition right now.
Yes - the last several Presidential elections. If the author can't find evidence of this happening before, he isn't looking hard enough. Given a comment elsewhere in the article, he wasn't on the concerned side, and thus unaware of the degree of stocking up going on then. Heck, I got my first AR before Clinton precisely because I expected such bans.
Gun Sales Shoot Through the Roof Despite Bad Economy
Posted: Oct 29, 2008 06:49 PM
Kellene Stockwell
Channel 2 News
Not all business is slow right now. In fact, gun sales are up 10% nationwide.
Some Reno firearms instructors say even people who never thought they’d hold a gun are now signing up for their concealed weapons training classes.
Many people fear that if Barack Obama wins the presidential race, he may do what Bill Clinton tried to do and ban semi-automatic rifles.
The Gun Trader in Reno used to sell two or three assault rifles a week - now two or three a day. “You don’t know what’s gonna happen in the future. Probably not a bad time to buy,” says buyer Art Verling.
Obama says he believes in people’s right to bear arms, but Democrats historically try to enact gun controls.
Meanwhile, people in Washoe County are looking for more protection since police say break-ins and robberies are on the rise.
And with break-ins and robberies on the rise in Washoe County, people also want protection now more than ever.
http://www.ktvn.com/Global/story.asp?S=9262479
Gun Sales On Rise In FL On Fear Of An Obama Presidency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V71Do4Fj8XU
Florida Gun Sales up Because of Fear of an Obama Presidency
Posted on October 29, 2008 by Mr Pink Eyes
Florida residents, who understand that Barack Obama is against the second amendment, are buying guns before it becomes a crime under an Obama administration.
Here is where he stands on the second amendment:
* As a state legislator in Illinois, Obama supported banning the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic firearms, increasing state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms
* He supported a “ban” on the sale and possession of handguns on a political questionnaire
* As state senator, he voted against a 2004 measure that allowed self-defense as an affirmative defense to those charged with violating local laws making it otherwise unlawful for such persons to possess firearms.
* He voted against allowing persons who had obtained domestic violence protective orders to carry handguns for their protection.
* Obama has also stated his opposition to allowing citizens to carry concealed guns and supports a national law outlawing the practice
Is it any wonder people are buying guns now before Barack Obama becomes president?
http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/florida-gun-sales-up-for-fear-of-an-obama-presidency/
Have worked with some Pumas here in NV.
Dedicated to taking down Zero.
God Bless them.
The point of bringing up Shay’s is that kind of hostility toward the citizenry breeds and feeds unrest. If what I think I see happening is part of some grand design, rather than just sheer stupidity, we’re going to be in for turbulent times the likes of which we have not seen since the civil war.
I’m buying a new .22 bolt action rifle for the birthday of a certain female who shoots like a pro.
...and a mutual FRiend of ours just bought a new SOCOM 16 last night. :)
Somebody didn't do their research and has a lax memory. I looked at 46 posts on this thread before I start writing this. How about the off year election in 1994? When the Clinton's passed that draconian gun control AWB/magazine ban? What was the bloody result? The Rats out on their A$$E$ after ruling Congress for 40+ years. Go back further. The 2000 election. Gore loses his HOME STATE of Tennessee which hasn't happened in perhaps a century. Even Peanut Jimmy got Georgia in 1980. Gore also loses West-By-God Virginia which hadn't gone Republican in ten cycles minimum. But the first day of deer season is a school holidy in WV. Why? Simple. All those workin' class folks suddenly were faced with the reality that indeed the Rats rhetoric might be (as the Not-so Reverend Not-so Wright would put it) COMMIN' HOME TO ROOOOOOST! Later even Bill Clinton would acknowledge on a variety of news interviews that the NRA beat Gore. Later he would admit that the RATs lost control of Congress over gun control and more importantly over their 10 yr ban. Liberals are idiots. Like lemmings over the cliff, I think it's in their DNA to suicide over the issue of the 2nd Amendment. Folks, it's about to happen again.
Well, I think something's coming around. Civil War in 1860, civil unrest of the 1920's, civil unrest of the 60's and early 70's(Weather Underground, anyone?)...we could be due.
Please stock up on your arms. After McCain wins you very well may need them to protect yourselves!
Not likely 1860 more like Northern Ireland or possibly Argentina under Pinochet. Racial violence possible use of regular troops to enforce political proclamations from Washington D.C. or guerilla warfare complete with Federal LEO death squads.
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