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Straight Talk From Radarsite: The Scandals Don't matter
Radarsite ^ | 13 October 2008 | Roger W. Gardner

Posted on 10/13/2008 12:58:13 AM PDT by Roger W. Gardner

Reuters C-SPAN Zogby Poll: Obama Widens Lead To 6 Points Over McCain

October 12th, 2008 By JOE GANDELMAN, Editor-In-Chief

A new Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby poll finds that Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama has widened his lead over Republican Sen. John McCain to six points which is outside the margin of error - -the latest in a series of polls showing McCain increasingly trailing the Illinois Senator:

Democratic Party presidential nominee Barack Obama took a step into rarified air this morning, standing for the first time outside the statistical margin of error in a Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby likely voter poll. The survey shows him moving into a statistically significant edge of 6.1 percentage points over Republican John McCain in the latest nationwide sample.

The rolling telephone tracking poll, including a sample of 1,206 likely voters collected over the previous three 24-hour periods spanning four calendar days - approximately 400 per 24-hour period from Oct. 8-11, 2008 - shows Obama’s lead growing from the 3.8 percentage points he enjoyed yesterday.

The biggest development of the last 24 hours in terms of the poll was Obama’s strong move among independent voters, where he now leads McCain by 21 percentage points, roughly doubling his support from just the day before.

Among Democrats, Obama wins 85% support, while McCain wins 86% support among Republicans. It is an interesting side note that McCain is winning more support from Democrats (10%) than Obama is winning from Republicans (8%), but the edge is insignificant.

Some straight talk from Radarsite: Below is yet another article about yet another Obama scandal, his overt support for a brutal Islamist supporting dictator intent on introducing and enforcing strict sharia law into Kenya. This, as you all know by now, is just the latest in a whole incredible series of major scandals involving presidential candidate Barack Obama, any one of which, in normal times, would be more than sufficient to bring a candidate's campaign to a crashing halt. But of course these are not normal times, are they folks?

Above are the latest results from the Reuters/ C-Span/ Zogby poll wherein Obama maintains his comfortable 6 point lead over McCain. Odinga, Rezko, Ayers, Wright, Acorn, the Iraq manipulations, his close ties to the corrupt Chicago political machine, his questionable ties to Muslims and Islamic terrorists, his wife's glaringly anti-white American statements -- all of these shocking exposes and more together add their undeniable negative weight to one side of the scale. Yet, incredibly, even all together they are not enough to tilt the scales, they are still of insufficient weight. For on the other side of this improbable scale sits that enormous immovable bulk of blind irrational Obama support that borders on mass hysteria. It remains untouched, immune to attack and impervious to truth.

While we who are not blinded to reason, who still believe in America, grasp at moral straws, hoping beyond hope that this latest scandal, this newest outrage, will finally do the trick. That somehow, before it really is too late, the gullible American people will finally wake up and see the light, will finally see this dangerous charlatan for what he truly is and for what he most assuredly represents -- which is nothing less than the death of America. The death of the America we know and love.

But as the moments tick by and we get closer and closer to that fateful day in November, inexplicably nothing changes. He remains unscathed by it all. Half, or more than half, of this credulous country of ours wants to believe in the deadly dream that is Obama and they will not be dissuaded by mere facts. They are, it is clearly evident, determined to accept responsibility for America's long list of crimes and failures and resolved to change what it means to be an American. And, God help us, if Obama wins the presidency, they will indeed change what it means to be an American. Perhaps forever.

Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps I've become prematurely cynical and fatalistic. I want to be wrong. I want to believe. Perhaps this latest Odinga outrage detailed below will finally 'do the trick'. Or, if not this one, maybe one of those others will suddenly take on the moral weight it so richly deserves and the American people will belatedly come to their senses. Read and decide for yourselves. Is enough enough yet? - rg ----------------------------------------------------

Washington Times on Obama-Odinga-Genocide-Muslim Law

Barack Obama campaigning with Raila Odinga in Kenya

Cross posted from Maggie's Notebook Photo credit Telegraph.co.uk Barack Obama Raila Odinga

Barack Obama's relationship with Kenyan Raila Odinga has made it into America's mainstream press.

Sunday, October 12, 2008 Here is an American account of the blood on the hands of Raila Odinga, who Obama campaigned for in Kenya.Here is an American account of the agreement Odinga signed with the Muslim Leadership Forum which would have forever changed the lives of Christians in the country as well as the lives of the non-religious. Here is an American account of the time Obama spent with Odinga.Here is an American account of the close personal ties between Barack Obama's father and Raila Odinga's father. Read the entire article at the The Washington Times.

Follows some snippets: Mr. Odinga had the backing of Kenya's Muslim community heading into the election. For months he denied any ties to Muslim leaders, but fell silent when Sheik Abdullahi Abdi, chairman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum, appeared on Kenya television displaying a memorandum of understanding signed on Aug. 29, 2007, by Mr. Odinga and the Muslim leader. Mr. Odinga then denied his denials.The details of the MOU [Memorandum of Understanding] were shocking. In return for Muslim backing, Mr. Odinga promised to impose a number of measures favored by Muslims if he were elected president. Among these were recognition of "Islam as the only true religion," Islamic leaders would have an "oversight role to monitor activities of ALL other religions [emphasis in original]," installation of Shariah courts in every jurisdiction, a ban on Christian preaching, replacement of the police commissioner who "allowed himself to be used by heathens and Zionists," adoption of a women's dress code, and bans on alcohol and pork.

Thank you to Goat at the Barnyard.



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1 posted on 10/13/2008 12:58:13 AM PDT by Roger W. Gardner
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To: Roger W. Gardner
This guy gets it, of course. But watch out for the wrath of those who only want to hear sunshine and happiness.

I'm reminded of when Bush ran against Clinton, all the negative stories piling up just before he won...and of the OJ juror who said "there was TOO MUCH EVIDENCE against him"!

People just tune out facts when their FEEEEELINGS tell them they like this nice, clean black man, and he'll be different, and blah blah blah.

2 posted on 10/13/2008 1:04:58 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Happy Thanksgiving to Canadian FReepers)
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The “stack of stuff” on 0bama that the LSM is ignoring must be as tall as Mount Everest by now!

Are that many people insane? I know McCain’s not the best candidate...

It’s so frustrating!


3 posted on 10/13/2008 1:06:05 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: Roger W. Gardner

When the msm is in the tank for you then the scandals do not matter unless they get enough traction the msm cant ignore it any longer.


4 posted on 10/13/2008 1:06:44 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Roger W. Gardner

Yes, a socialist America may be within their grasp at last. Then they can bring on their one world government, too.

I, for one, will not be welcoming our new Obamunist masters.


5 posted on 10/13/2008 1:17:16 AM PDT by EasySt ( Fold Here! Fold Now! (Free Republic Folders)
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To: EasySt

Your post was outdated the second you clicked Enter. The latest Zogby poll has McCain within 4 points (48 v. 44):

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1584


6 posted on 10/13/2008 1:22:06 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: Roger W. Gardner; All

WE’RE NOT TURNING THE WHITE HOUSE KEYS OVER TO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA- NOT IF WE ON FR, RUSH, HANNITY AND FOX HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

CALLING OBAMA A RESPECTABLE FAMILY MAN THAT WE NEED NOT FEAR IS OUTRAGEOUS!

McCAIN TAKING THE ABUSE AND INSULTS FROM OBAMA AND REFUSING TO FIGHT BACK IS OUTRAGEOUS!

FReep McCAIN/ MSM OUT.

HOW LONG CAN THEY IGNORE A MILLION EMAILS??

.

McCain is losing this campaign because he refuses to fight Obama and his lies, and dirty tactics such as ACORN voter fraud. He’s just been rolling over (or bending over, I should say) and accepting the abuse heaped upon him- and expecially Sarah Palin.

The anemic attempts by the McCain camp to fight back within the last few days just ain’t gonna get it.
He should have been hitting Obama back hard months ago.
He needs to get out there every day and FIGHT BACK.
Email Republican headquarters/McCain.

FReep ‘EM OUT!

CAN THEY IGNORE A MILLION EMAILS?

REMIND McCAIN THAT HE HAS AN OBLIGATION AS OUR CANDIDATE TO FIGHT BACK!
To h*ll with bipartisian BS!
To h*ll with PC!
To h*ll with ‘conducting a respectful campaign’as McCain has said, and vowed to do.

RESPECTFUL CAMPAIGNING WENT STRAIGHT OUT THE WINDOW WITH OBAMA’S NASTY, BRUTAL COMMENTS SUCH AS;
‘lipstick on a pig’ and ‘You can wrap AN OLD FISH in a piece of paper called change. It’s still going to stink after eight years.’

Take off the gloves, McCain!

Hit the Marxist/Muslim hard with Ayers, Acorn, Violation of Logan Act, abortion, 2nd admendment, Campaigning for Odinga!!

Get off the d*mned economy issue. State that Obama/Democrats/ACORN, whatever, caused this meltdown. State McCain offered a proposal to avert the meltdown, state his solution and GET OFF IT.
Obama is counting on keeping this going to take the spotlight off his sordid past and dirty dealings!
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FReep ‘EM!!!! SEND THEM THESE VIDEOS:

OBAMA CAUGHT STATING ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL SHAPE HIS PRESIDENTIAL AGENDA!!
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Obama connection with ACORNhttp://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=

Obama goes to Kenya on the tax payer’s dollar to campaign for the murderous Islam-backed Odinga
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7 posted on 10/13/2008 1:22:09 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: BCrago66
Well, good!

I pray it's good enough, but if we were not already becoming a socialist country, Obama would not even be in the running, much less 4 points ahead.

8 posted on 10/13/2008 2:44:18 AM PDT by EasySt ( Fold Here! Fold Now! (Free Republic Folders)
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To: patriot08
Take care. Thanks for the info you have provided.

In God we trust. Adding prayers to the needed e-mails.

9 posted on 10/13/2008 2:46:51 AM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: Roger W. Gardner

Bullsqueeze!

Unmitigated bullsqueeze!


10 posted on 10/13/2008 2:58:24 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: BCrago66

I have to wonder about why neither of these guys can get a solid lead and keep it. The problem is, Obama always seems to be the one ahead. And yet, he SHOULD be way ahead...but he never is.


11 posted on 10/13/2008 3:12:12 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Happy Thanksgiving to Canadian FReepers)
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To: patriot08

If the American People elect this bafoon, They got it comin. I think we have adequately warned a lot of them; they saw the Clinton mess, they have been told about pelosi, Reid, etc. What else can a person do? GG how frustrating can this get?


12 posted on 10/13/2008 3:20:50 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (AMEN)
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To: Roger W. Gardner
The biggest development of the last 24 hours in terms of the poll was Obama’s strong move among independent voters, where he now leads McCain by 21 percentage points, roughly doubling his support from just the day before.

Sudden moves like this don't happen in ONE DAY absent a major event.

I'm calling BS.

Cheers!

13 posted on 10/13/2008 5:05:40 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Roger W. Gardner
The biggest development of the last 24 hours in terms of the poll was Obama’s strong move among independent voters, where he now leads McCain by 21 percentage points, roughly doubling his support from just the day before.

Sudden moves like this don't happen in ONE DAY absent a major event.

I'm calling BS.

Cheers!

14 posted on 10/13/2008 5:07:03 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Roger W. Gardner
The biggest development of the last 24 hours in terms of the poll was Obama’s strong move among independent voters, where he now leads McCain by 21 percentage points, roughly doubling his support from just the day before.

Sudden moves like this don't happen in ONE DAY absent a major event.

I'm calling BS.

Cheers!

15 posted on 10/13/2008 5:07:23 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Darkwolf377
McCain has painted himself into a corner. He cannot get conservatives on board by calling for smaller government, when he has supported bigger government his whole career. The only arrow left in his quiver is the negative message. He has no positive message to give people a reason to vote for him, only the negative message of why they should not vote for his opponent. That is only half the job, and it is never enough.
16 posted on 10/13/2008 5:29:34 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Roger W. Gardner

And what were the number of Democrats vs Republicans in the poll?


17 posted on 10/13/2008 5:41:53 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ('we will put these immortals to the test' -300)
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To: Roger W. Gardner

So Obama’s lead is at 6? Well, then, thankfully we’re still OK because according to the MSM, racism is ingrained in Americans and its worth about 5% in the polls for McCain.

/sarcams off


18 posted on 10/13/2008 5:42:31 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: Roger W. Gardner

Reuters = untrustworthy
C-SPAN = untrustworthy
Zogby = very untrustworthy

Why should I be concerned about this poll again?

For that matter, can you point us to some internals for this poll? I suspect it’s oversampled for Dems, just like all the other past polls showing Obama 6-8 points ahead.


19 posted on 10/13/2008 6:05:26 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Roger W. Gardner

I do think there’s a chance one of these scandals will resonate with “undecided” voters. But for those who are Obama devotees it’s hopeless - unless he is shown to be lying to his base. (IMHO - there’s something in the birth certificate.)


20 posted on 10/13/2008 6:50:06 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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