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Jesse Helms and the Dialog On Race
The Virginian ^ | 7/10/2008 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 07/10/2008 7:02:21 PM PDT by moneyrunner

When the newborn is shown to a bunch of women, you always hear the same lies: “what a beautiful baby.” The fact is that the parents are grateful that it has ten toes and fingers. And the wrinkled little tyke is anything but beautiful; we’re just glad that it’s finally out and alive.

The same with that “dialog on race” that the MSM is always wishing for. It’s a lie. Here is what the MSM looks for in a dialog on race.

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: helms; jessehelms; race; virginianpilot
Jesse Helms was not much to look at, but he was a giant of a man in a political world of spineless weasels.
1 posted on 07/10/2008 7:02:22 PM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner

Golly! I just can’t wait till CNN airs their “Black in America” series on the 23rd and 24th.

I’m sure it’s already guaranteed an Emmy.

I’m also sure I’ll be left feeling terribly guilty for my (half) white privileges.


2 posted on 07/10/2008 7:11:08 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: moneyrunner

I’ll have to do some research on him. He does not appear to have been a man who was very tolerant of minorities from what I remember.


3 posted on 07/10/2008 7:22:08 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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I lived in Wilmington NC back in the day when Jesse Helms was a news reader on local TV and did opinion bits. I was convinced he was racist at that time and didn’t care for him at all, so didn’t follow his career. He may have changed over time. I don’t know.

I did enjoy seeing a newsclip a few years ago where he locked some feminazis out of a meeting room on Capitol Hill.


4 posted on 07/10/2008 8:38:44 PM PDT by Flora McDonald (Stand the storm!)
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To: brwnsuga

Your comment interests me. Why should anyone be “tolerant” of minorities? What do you mean by “tolerant?” I tolerate a lot of people, but tolerating them implies that they are doing something of which I disapprove, but will ignore what they are doing. In a very real way, it can mean that I view them as children, not really my equals, and will ignore their shortcomings.

Be careful of wishing other people’s “tolerance.” I would suggest you go for “respect.”


5 posted on 07/11/2008 4:47:55 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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Flora,
It would be interesting to know what Jesse Helms actually said that made you think he was racist. Was Jesse Jackson racist when he said he wanted to cut Obama’s nuts out?


6 posted on 07/11/2008 4:50:23 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: moneyrunner

That was my nice way of saying he seemed to hate black people.


7 posted on 07/11/2008 7:21:18 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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I’m sorry, moneyrunner. You and I would probably be insinc 99% of the time but I’m talking 32 to 35 years ago after watching Sen. Helms on the nightly news over a period of time. And after three decades have passed I cannot give you any specific quotes.

I quit watching him on TV and didn’t follow his career because of my perception of his views on race at that time so I missed out on a big chunk of his career and evolution.

I don’t see the relevance of Nobama and Jesse “Nuts” Jackson concerning what I wrote about Sen. Helms.


8 posted on 07/12/2008 9:08:22 AM PDT by Flora McDonald (Stand the storm!)
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To: Flora McDonald
The reason I asked for specific examples of racist expressions made by Jesse Helms is because the accusation of racism is a very serious charge. The definition of racism also seems to be evolving. For example, 35 years ago the “correct” term for non-whites of African ancestry was either “negro” or “colored.” Today, those terms are out of favor and there is a hint of racism about their use.

Also, back in the day, anyone who was not in favor of affirmative action, public housing projects or government engineered integration programs was deemed a racist. Objectively speaking, those initiatives have been at best a mixed blessing and at worst a total disaster. Affirmative action is now seen by its victims as racism with the shoe on the other foot. The “projects” are an outstanding example of social engineering which concentrates what is delicately referred to as “the underclass” in one concentrated festering stew of crime and despair. And Thomas Sowell has pointed out that “integration” had the effect of destroying functioning black neighborhoods and its small business community which had sustained the black family despite the very real racism that was much more blatant and accepted by the white community at that time.

Don’t misunderstand me. The drive to remove legal barriers to racial reconciliation and the drive for equal treatment under the law are things that everyone should support. What I am curious about is what Helms said or did that made him a racist in the sense the Adolph Hitler was a racist. In other words, what made you think that he believed that blacks were inferior as a race?

I don’t see the relevance of Nobama and Jesse “Nuts” Jackson concerning what I wrote about Sen. Helms.

Answer: take Jackson’s wish to emasculate Obama and put his words in the mouth of a white man … say Helms. There is no question that the expression would be considered proof positive of Helms’ racism. So either Jackson has made a racist comment about a black man or he has made a hateful comment about another man. Is it possible for a white man to make a hateful comment about a black man without being branded as a racist?

9 posted on 07/23/2008 4:49:22 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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