Posted on 02/12/2008 6:01:28 PM PST by rmlew
I don't mean to be a downer, but we've lost. And I don't mean the primary. The popularity of Obama among all groups and the increased support for liberalism and Democrats especially among the youth portend disaster.
Even if Conservatives were to magically retake the GOP, we are losing the country. Although individual conservative ideas are still popular, the American people want the nanny state to protect them, the government to provide or regulate health insurance at magically low cost, increased spending on all sorts of social programs and pork.
The failure of "big government" in the late 1960s to 1980 is a distant memory and about 1/5 voters were either not born then or immigrated since then. Meanwhile, during "conservative ascendancy", we have seen government grow along with debt, believing our opposition to these.
We complain about 12-30 million illegal aliens, but have not Americanized a greater number of legal immigrants and their children. (I am the exception, not the rule.) We have failed to teach our heritage to all American children. We have made fun of multiculturalists as these have divided Americans along race, class, and "gender" failing. While some saw the danger and fought rear-guard actions at school board meetings, far too many simply tried to opt-out of public education. Perhaps this retreat saved a few children, but the truth is that even students educated at home or in good private and religious schools are subject to the pressures of our sickened culture and Gramscite-dominated media.
The effects are real. How many under 35 can sing "My country 'Tis of Thee" with a straight face, or would even want to? How many cringe at words like Creator or the phrases "Self-evident rights" and "Out of Many One". How many stare blankly if one explains that the purpose of the Second Amendment is to allow for the people to overthrow an oppressive regime. How many under 35 get into a tizzy over profiling possibly terrorists, but meekly allow affirmative action? For that matter, how many over 35, conditioned by the media for years, have lost what they already knew to be true?
The failure to assimilate even legal immigrants is creating a balkanized society with aggrieved groups estranged from the founding principles of this country. Likewise, we have failed a generation of Americans in this country by not passing on the mores, tradition and heritage of this country. Is it any surprise the young and "New Americans" support Obama?
We Conservatives have chosen to passively list to talk radio and Fox News, rather than fight the battles that dominate our culture. As shown by the failure of the Bush-McCain-Kennedy Amnesty, we can fight and win, if we choose to. But this was the exception. Our "new leaders" are not independents. They are employees of multi-national corporations (Fox News, Clear Channel) or depend on these for exposure. Others are members of a political party, the GOP and thus have a natural tendency protect party and president over nation and ideology.
We, Republicans and Conservatives are playing to win individual elections. Meanwhile the left is transforming America, ensuring that they will win in the long term. We either fight this battle or consign our children to being strangers in what should have been the land of their birthright. The "New Jerusalem" sought by the Pilgrims has become Canaan.
People blame neocons and Rockefeller Republicans for the leftward turn of the GOP. However, it is only responding to the increasing liberalism of the American electorate, including self-proclaimed conservatives.
The GOP has not betrayed conservatives. Conservatives have failed America.
Yeppers.
It was a very special culture that created America. The rugged, do-it-yourself pioneer spirit was the result of a specific conjunction of individuality, pride, intelligence, and optimism that, frankly, is non-existent in most cultures.
Most cultures are tribal, collectivist, and have very limited goals: party and get laid. Even strict Islamists promise suicide bombers an afterlife of what? Partying and getting laid.
We are the last relics of a once-in-a-million-years mutation: a culture of self-reliance. The messy dregs you see about you are typically human. This is simply the jungle retaking the ruins. Nature. Be glad you got to see it before it was lost under the vines.
“But, as I gaze across the barren landscape of the Republican party, I can see only one guy who’s got any real ideas.
That would be you, Newt.” posted by: okie01
I’m inclined to agree. His baggage is no worse than the cleanest Dem, and he can point that out. What I don’t see is anyone who has the right stance across the spectrum of issues, who can communicate it, debate it, and sell it other than Newt. No one since Newt has been able to crystalize this set of qualities like Reagan.
The litmus test of true conservatism is whether the MSM holds you to a different standard.
And then the artificial intelligence of machines took over...
The pendulum swings one way, then another. All hope is not lost....perhaps delayed, but not lost.
We lost when we let the liberals take over the education system.
Now they are so entrenched the only choice is to abandon it and hope that the homeschooled generations can carry the baton of civilisation.
It is mystifying to me that Barack Obama is rising like a rock star by proposing to solve the politics of hate and partisanship— which were implemented and carried out by his voting base.
It is surreal that this will be the basis of his victory.
Obama will allow his base to stop frothing at the mouth with their hatred of our Commander in Chief and our troops.
Wow! What a deal.
I still believe a huge strategic error has been made by conservatives that disaffiliated themselves with Bush. I think that made Obama’s coming route a rational ploy. Even conservatives don’t like Bush so Obama is doing everyone a favor by relieving this Bush of his command.
That is an absurd and hateful meme but for now it seems llikely to take the Democrats to the White House and historic high levels of control in the Senate and the House. Conservatives on these boards will largely not bat an eye because they consider Bush a traitor on the border.
I strongly disagree with the bashing this good President has gotten from partisans on both sides. I am no longer particularly impressed with what is deemed “conservative.” The enemy Bush confronted was more diabolical than the Nazis and is more diminished by his radical strategies than any known alternative.
Thank you George Bush.
That's certainly one of the biggest reasons. The NEA has wreaked incredible damage to our country and culture.
“Allow me to get very ethnocentric here:
It was a very special culture that created America. The rugged, do-it-yourself pioneer spirit was the result of a specific conjunction of individuality, pride, intelligence, and optimism that, frankly, is non-existent in most cultures.
Most cultures are tribal, collectivist, and have very limited goals: party and get laid. Even strict Islamists promise suicide bombers an afterlife of what? Partying and getting laid.
We are the last relics of a once-in-a-million-years mutation: a culture of self-reliance. The messy dregs you see about you are typically human. This is simply the jungle retaking the ruins. Nature. Be glad you got to see it before it was lost under the vines.”
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Yep. Now I’m depressed. The truth hurts.
And the author of the article is right. We didn’t do enough. It’s so much nicer to blame everyone else. I hate when that happens.
We had no real conservatives run a good campaign. As a result, it looks like McCainiac will be a minority selected candidate.
Read “Atlas Shrugged”. It will cheer you up.
We also lost because the Rnc/Gop lost theyre way.We trusted them to do the right thing..
What we had instead was the Thompson charade. McCain’s buddy Fred did his job of sucking up all the air so that no conservative could gather a following, and a lot of good but foolish and unobservant people fell for it.
It is not an accident that conservatives don’t have a candidate. This is by design.
But there are still 9 months left before the election. We can stew about and sulk over it or we can put all that energy behind someone who is conservative and running for President. This is 2008. We’re not dependent on the media anymore to get the word out.
To some extent, these traits were universally shared by all British Colonies. Aside from the US, traces remain in Australia.
That is an absurd and hateful meme but for now it seems llikely to take the Democrats to the White House and historic high levels of control in the Senate and the House. Conservatives on these boards will largely not bat an eye because they consider Bush a traitor on the border.
1. The importation of millions of disaffected and inherently alienate future liberal voters and the Balkanization of America cannot be ignored.
2. Bush WOT is FUBAR. He refuesed to name the enemy at first and still refuses to understand it. He allows radical Islamists to control our security policy under the guise of PC. His "democratization" goal is allowing islamist to take power.
You want a Nazi analogy? Here's one. Amagin if instead of arresting all members of the German-American Bund FDR had made the FBI go through Bundist classes on German culture. Imagine that American school Children were taught about Wotan worship in glowing terms, and we spoke of Nazi-extremists and reached out to "moderate" Nazis instead of the German people.
Had it been a Democrat pushing these policies, we would all be screaming. But because it has been implemented by a Republican, we fall in line like lemmings.
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