Posted on 11/08/2007 1:31:12 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
A Columbine-type massacre tragically went down at a school in Finland the other day, leaving eight dead plus the shooter. According to AHRP, there's evidence that the young shooter was on SSRIs and that they made him "aggressive," a well-documented but often overlooked problem with these drugs. AHRP reports that, although Finnish press accounts include the SSRI information, the possible SSRI connection was stripped from British and American press accounts of the shooting. Now, if the shooter had been drunk or stoned or diagnosed with schizophrenia, they would have included that information, so why would they trim out mentions of anti-depressants? Draw your own conclusions.
But remember that one of the Columbine shooters was on Luvox, an SSRI.
And there you have it,,,,,,a victim of SSRIs. He cannot be held accountable for his actions,,,,I know he's dead, but his memory must not be tarnished....he was a victim. /SARCASM OFF
I have often wondered if the anti-depressent drugs may be partly responsible.
He had stopped taking Luvox a week or two before, iirc. The Luvox issue came up with him when he spoke to a military recruiter who told him he had to be off it for a year, not weeks.
But, we all got the info here, and it was mentioned on local radio.
The drugs didn’t make him kill. His mental imbalance made him kill. Doctors claimed that the drugs made him “normal” but as with the Virginia Tech killer, he was not “cured”, he was just able to “pass” for normal.
I don’t buy the “anti-depressants cause violent behavior” line. What I do believe is that way too much faith is placed in virtually all psychiatric medications, with the result that people whose behavior is not within normal limits are allowed to continue to go to school, work, stay home with children, etc, as long as they’re “on medication”. Once the medication has been started, people who were seriously worried about the person’s behavior suddenly stop being worried (or at least stop formally expressing concern that something ought to be done) once they’re told the person is “on medication now”, even though the behavior hasn’t improved. These people were dangerous before they were put on meds, which is why they were put on meds, but the majority remain dangerous after they’re put on meds.
It used to be that no school or employer or landlord would tolerate obviously disturbed behavior. Now political correctness, and in the US the stupid ADA and medical privacy laws, prevent people from getting seriously disturbed individuals out of their school, workplace, or residential property. Crazy people were locked where at least others would be safe from them (not always in places that provided decent care to the crazy people, unfortunately).
We need to quit blaming the meds, and blame political correctness and government meddling.
The Virginia Tech killer wasn’t even close to “passing for normal”. Everybody knew he was dangerously crazy. Problem was, our laws are even crazier and prevented anybody from doing anything about it.
Conveniently overlooked by the SSRI conspiracy nuts is that, for decades (and long before SSRI), recovery from depression by whatever method has an associated risk for suicide and homicide.
The experts all said that the VT killer was “functional”. He was not.
LOL!
Exactly-—
“If you think Harry was mean ON the Celexa, you shoulda seen him before he went on it!”
We are told that we have to wait until they “do something” but this is not the case when it comes to being PI (publicly intoxicated) or DUI (driving while “intoxicated” at 0.08), the law steps in to stop them BEFORE something happens.
When they have been diagnosed and prescribed such treatments, they’ve already been IDed as a threat.
Why is it “ok” to let them roam among the general populace just because their brain chemistry’s “altered consciousness” occurs “naturally”?
Because unless they verbalize a threat to harm themselves or someone else as in—
“I am going to kill you!” or
“I am going to kill myself!”
Or if they are exhibiting behaviors/actions that show clear harm (hair pulling, biting, cutting etc)
And it is witnessed, they can’t be hospitalized for treatment.
At least that is the law in our state.
Bingo! It has been known for a long time, and it is simply logical that, when you take someone who’s so depressed they can’t muster the energy to do ANYthing and give them something to ease the depression, the risk for suicidal or homicidal acts logically increases as they start to come out of it and become more energized but are still severely depressed.
That’s why they USED to keep suicidal people in safe inpatient settings until they were fully stabilized on effective medication. Then “managed care” (aka managed lack of care) came along and they decided to kick the patients out on the street after 2-3 days and let the rest of society deal with the consequences.
Now they want to try and blame the drug companies. Sorry, but I’m not buying that.
But that sh*t couldn’t happen in Europe, man! They gots gun control over there! /s
Don't get me started...
They are more than partly responsible.
Its a dirty little secret with those mind alterin drugs. They make the mind behave real different.
I hate to say this; but I do and I think the people be they child or adult are being used to experiment them on.
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