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A Sermon that EVERY Christian needs to hear ! [Paul Washer]
Sermon Audio ^ | 5/29/2006 | Paul Washer

Posted on 04/12/2007 2:29:18 PM PDT by davidosborne

EVERYONE who claims to be a "Christian" needs to hear this -- A "Christian" Self-Check is in order here...

Well worth the download time, some comments from others who have downloaded this sermon..

Brief Sermon Overview:For more info about Paul Washer go to www.heartcrymissionary.com

This is a Shockingly Powerful & Biblical message preached to about 5,000 youth in a day when youth are appealed to through shallow and worldly means.

At one point in this sermon the 5,000 Youth are clapping and yelling BUT THEN the preacher makes a comment that CHANGES THE WHOLE ATMOSPHERE TO WHERE YOU COULD HAVE HEARD A PIN DROP... As you can imagine, the preacher was never invited back.

We believe the whole sermon will be a blessing to many souls. ------------------------------

Note: Way of the Master Radio heard Paul Washer's 'Shocking Youth Message' and decided to have him on the Radio show and interview him about HeartCry Missionary Society and later also interviewed him on T.V.

You can listen to those interviews here: http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonID=81106162457

------------------------------ Note: HeartCry Missionary Society offers a DVD of this message. Contact them at: aglass@heartcrymissionary.com

The contact info at the end of this video is outdated, go to www.heartcrymissionary.com for updated info. This video was encoded by http://www.essentricaudio.com

132 User Comments » MORE COMMENTS | If you were blessed by this message, feel free to email the broadcaster for their encouragement and please add your own public comment ... R.Bani from Vanuatu, South Pacific (4/11/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” Wow, I am so blessed. We need people like Paul who will speak nothing but the truth. May God bless your Ministry

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- daniel from macon, GA (4/7/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” so many great truths in this message and so many false teaching exposed. A shocking message to all who profess to know Jesus Christ whether they be saved or not. Praise God for this!! God gets all the glory for this!!! Also, did you realize he knew he wouldnt be asked back...through God and im sure experience Paul Washer knew how people would and do react to the truth especially here in America. My God is highly to be praised for this and i needed this, Amen!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- julie from Texas (4/3/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” Great sermon! My son was given the sermon and brought it home for us to listen too. I can't tell you how awesome it was. That sermon has spread to many people since then. My oldest son listened to it and God spoke to his heart in a great way. He began reading his Bible to learn more about God's Word and is on fire. Continue preaching the Word!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Lester from Gauteng, South Africa (4/2/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” Dearest Brother Paul Oh that God would grant more PREACHING like this. May God grant you the grace to preach even more boldly and to delight your heart even more in Himself. I thank Him for the grace He has given you. Alan

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LuMeL from U.S.A. (3/14/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” WOW! God bless Paul Washer for having the courage to say the truth. I needed to hear this for we seam to forget what cristianity is... GOD IS HOLY!!!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- neydi gerena from meriden (3/14/2007) “ MY GOD IS AWESOME ” WOW!!!i praise god that he opened my eyes.his holy spirit convicted me and by his grace i listened..he touched me when u said about the clothing.i would dress to impress. but thank god i prayed to him that he provides me with money so that i can change my wardrobe..and also about respecting my parents.i didint treat them bad in my eyes but in gods eyes i did. thank the lord for HIS rebuking. thats how much he loves us that he warns us before its too late..god bless u all

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dedrick Briggs from Greensboro, NC (3/12/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” Ministry Washer I am a member of New Jerusalem Cathedral and I am 22 yrs old. I listened to your youth conference messeger and some others via "Way Of The Master" and I thought it was incredibly truthful and led by the Holy-Spirit. Atleast some were convicted enough to either get saved or rededicate. your message really checked me and made me think about whether I was truly living for the Lord or self, thank you for sacrificing yourself for the Lord. pray for me that I may be able to endure the same way.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jaybo (3/12/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” This sermon is very powerful sermon! This type preaching is very motivational to me. Thank you for obeying the Lord. Thank You, Jaybo

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Someone who has been shaken from at work---Hbg, Pa (3/1/2007) “ Truth & Change... ” My LORD, My LORD, I'm sooo glad that I know You & You know me. This is something that is a necessity among the Body, yes indeed! I have been changed recently and this has stirred me up again... My God! I thank & give our God all the praise & glory for the Truth that has been spoken. And the thing about it was it wasn't emotion speaking and trying to entertain because you could feel the Holy Spirit shaking and stirring as you listened. If you didn't, you must be dead or something. I have received confirmation for somethings that I believe God has placed in me and i'm not going to delay any longer! You are in my prayers Min. Washer! Please, please, don't stop! Continue, Be strong, of good courage, and keep preaching the Truth! your fellow servant, T.W. note: This comment was lightly edited to remove content not related to the sermon.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark from Atlanta (2/17/2007) “ This is a real blessing! ” Brother Washer, I heard you preach at a Men's Conference hosted by Don Currin Ministries about 3 or 4 years ago. You were a blessing then and , after listening to this message, you are still a blessing. Brother, I am truly encouraged to hear that the Lord is moving in your life and as a result others are taking notice. I was even more encouraged to hear about how this sermon has affected the students at a Canadian Christain College. You, your family, and your ministry will remain in my prayers! Lord bless you!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a teenager (2/16/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” Amen! (What kind of nation are we becoming so that even so-called Christians cannot stomach the truth of the Bible as Pr Washer preached it?) Pray for America!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Niko P. (2/10/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” Yeehaahewweyy!! Preach it brother! I have been in the ministry and listened to many a sermons, but this one gets my spirit rumblin. I am thinking about everyone that needs to hear this. It is true, the sinners prayer is not biblical. Paul tells us to work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Also, I believe we can go on a mission right here in the states. We need to start preaching the truth to eachother. The bible says wounds from a friend can be trusted, but and enemy multiplies kisses. I am grateful that my church believes in rebuking. I just got slammed for my pride a couple months ago, but I was able to see how I was hurting my wife. It was very eye-opening, and it made me grateful in the long run for the stern correction. Love you all. Don't be afraid to speak the truth in love.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Abigail from PA (2/7/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” My mother said it best, "It used to be you had to evangelize the heathen, (those who didn't know any better) now we have to evangelize those who think they're saved." I've literally made about 30 copies of this, giving correct copyright, and am handing them out! Pray that God may use them! : )

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob from White Bear Lake, Minnesota (2/4/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” WOW!! I was literally weeping as I was listening to this sermon by Paul. I am a youth worker and my heart began to ache for them as he was preaching. Why don't enough churches and ministry preach this?!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Larry A. Jones from Beaumont, TX (2/4/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” This sermon was excellent! It's not too often you hear a preacher actually teach what the Bible really says instead of what Southern Baptists have been wanting it to say for the last 50 years or so. He is absolutely correct. The "sinner's prayer" is not biblical. True repentence is "not like a flu shot"--a one-time thing and then it's over. If you are a true Christian, it will be evidenced by your fruit! I am so sick of the easy-believism that is so prevailant in American Christianity! We need more preachers like Paul. Great sermon. Good job, Paul Washer.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philip from Coeur D Alene Idaho (2/3/2007) “ Amazing Sermon ” If you like milk toast thumbsucking Christianity don't listen to this sermon.America needs more preachers like this servant of God.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheryl from Australia (1/29/2007) “ This Does Your Heart Good ” The sad, all-too-common phenomenon of the hour in Western religious circles: Christianity without Christ. I would’ve liked to see Bro. Washer go even further, but if a man is doing that, I don’t know that he will be invited by such a venue to preach in the first place? Frankly, it’s going to take more than this because we grieved away the Holy Ghost long ago. “And He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, Pastors and ... political activists? ...” Apart from oddities like Paul Washer, the last mentioned is about all we have left these days. Don’t conditions bespeak eloquent enough testimony to prove it an accurate observation? It seems we will get nowhere in America unless we’re hated a lot more for the Truth. One wonders if it may indeed take modern martyrs for Truth to even begin to turn the tide there? An old fiery preacher of the past who is also featured here, this being Rolfe Barnard, saw that we had grieved away the Holy Ghost from our churches. May God have mercy on us all and help us get back to Him!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don from Detroit Area (1/28/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” This sermon hit me right between the eyes.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- neil mclaine from london england (1/27/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” this sermon gave me the lift i needed as a baby in christ, it puts everything in perspective and has helped me refocus my attention on the word. god bless brother washer!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck from Chicago (1/27/2007) “ Very Good Sermon! ” We need more prophets: or those that are willing to proclaim the truth, the best they know how, to the extent that they know it. This is just a warning call to the Arminian style preaching and the doctrines to which they hold. The Bible teaches that the only way people believe the truth and come to Christ is through the operation of the Holy Spirit. Jesus said that "All that the Father giveth me SHALL come to Me." If God gave Christ the whole world, they would all come to Him. Paul said that he does "all things for the elect's sakes." We do not know who the elect are, but we do know that God will effectually reach these people. So all in all, a good sermon confronting the errors in his denomination. However, I was greatly moved personally in his assessment of true Christianity versus false Christianity: we truly must examine ourselves.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John from Brisbane, Australia. (1/24/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” Every now and then I hear a sermon worth listening to. This is one of them. As a former Baptist Pastor, I have personally witnessed the destruction of a Church by "leaders" hell-bent on pushing the user-friendly, Rick Warren type of trash. Thank God there are still some who can still see through it. God Bless you Paul, and may your tribe increase.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Levi from Ohio (1/21/2007) “ Foundation on the truth through the word ” This man was used by God to bring forth the things that our in the zone of "comfort" in the church and our daily lives. He throws the truth in our faces and we recognize exactly what is said. "Everyone wants to talk about a prophet, but no one wants to listen to one". I listened. And I heard God speak. We are all so conformed to the world and a nation of power and get relaxed in our lives. We have so much, but have so little. But if we have the LORD, we have everything! Never say no to the LORD... just go.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- jude from brisbane australia (1/20/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” I had previously commented on this sermon, around 9 months ago. It has bought lasting change into my life. I do not take my salvation lightly, now work it out with fear and trembling. I have become much more discerning and grateful to my Lord and Savior.I need the truth and the full gospel or I will die spiritually. Pastors please take note, preach sincerely the full counsel of God that will bring lasting fruit. NOTHING ELSE WILL. There are millions of people going to hell because they think they are saved, when they are not.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PV2 Robert Oliver from San Antonio, TX (1/15/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” I am 18 years old, and this sermon truly sparked the fire inside of me. I realize that I need to do better at living a christian life and letting my fruit prosper for Christ. God bless brother Washer and his ministry.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John from San Jose, CA (1/12/2007) “ Whew! ” Whew! Can't remember the last time I heard such fear of, and love for the Lord as I did in THIS sermon. What a contrast to all the contemporary preaching, aparently designed to uplift Man rather than God!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Katherine Soto from Central Florida (1/12/2007) “ The Truth! ” I loved this sermon! It brings truth and conviction. If you are not willing to obey the truth, you will be offended by it. Plain and simple.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brent from Kansas City (1/11/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” This sermon was greatly convicting.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- mOnk from Nebraska (1/3/2007) “ Great Sermon! ” Below I have cut and pasted my respond to Ingrid Schlueter on her Blog at Slice of Laodicea. Were it not for her re-posting of this sermon by Slice Blog reader I doubt I would have ever run onto it myself. Thanks so much for your ministry Pastor Washer. Ingrid, Thank you so much for posting this sermon as I've never heard it. I wept through much of it! All people everywhere who profess Jesus Christ as Lord need to spend an hour an listen to this message. I'm so grateful that I attend a church that exposit's God's word verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book, week in and week out. May the Lord continue to bless the ministries of those faithful Sheperds who earnestly contend for the faith of their flocks and sincerely take to heart the admonition given by Paul to Timothy in 2Timothy 4:1-5. With a grateful heart, mOnk Posted by: mOnk at January 3, 2007 01:32 PM

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Lee from California (12/21/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” Really convicting sermon. In-your-face truth!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michelle Curtis from Brookings, Oregon (12/20/2006) “ Praise God for this sermon!! ” This sermon was what I have been praying for, for over a year now. God is so good and faithful. In short, He got the sermon to me on disc through a chance meeting with a stranger, turned friend. I listened and wept and praid all through it; it was an overwhelming answer to months of praying.....for truth. Thank you Lord for sending us this current day Jerrimiah...may we all repent and turn from our wickid ways and seek His face...and tell those He directs us, to do the same. I sent a copy of the cd to my entire family who are mostly carnal christians...it upset and convicted them, as it did me, (smile). I am just beginning to give it to women who come to the pregnancy care center (I am a councelor there) in our town as well...it will upset them too(smile) Praise God for His faithfullness and longsuffering. We can all make a difference...one prayer and one heart at a time. We are giving it as a gift this christmas as well...as always...it will stun and anger most...(smile) praise God...He is so good~

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nova Snead from California (12/17/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” ..a prophetic rebuke... In the same vein as Jeremiah, shortly before Jerusalem was destroyed...

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce Lantto from Harrisville, Michigan (12/16/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” Great Sermon. The last part of this sermon. The invitation was telling I was moved to tears that a preacher would weep and plead for true salvation to these young kids... -Note: This comment has been shortened to include only the content relating to the sermon.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Gaudiosi from Wolcott, CT (12/16/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” This was for me!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gnosis from Ontario,Canada (12/14/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” Tremendous. Cuts to the chase. Shows how hypocritical we all are when it comes to Christianity.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Haskins from Richmond, Virginia (12/4/2006) “ Much Needed Preaching ” This man spoke the truth.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eunice from Singapore (11/30/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” i thank the Lord for this message. =)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Abdo from Kuwait (11/20/2006) “ A Great Blessing! ” Since I first listened to this sermon and I just keep listening to it. It is very much like the miracle of feeding of the 5000, you can eat as much as you want and the blessings just not finish. Even today, from just reading the 95 comments (so far) I was greatly blessed. God bless you brother Paul

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STEPHEN MCCOMB from LURGAN, NORTHERN IRELAND (11/19/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” Pastor Washer this sermon is very moving and challenging…this message should be preached all over the world. May the Lord Bless your work.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sarah from Huntsville, Alabama (11/15/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” I have to admitt, this was a very hard message to listen to. It is full of truth and so very convicting. For a few months God has been showing me how shallow my Christian walk used to be and this message just verified what God has been saying. The teachings of Ray Comfort of the Way of the Master have been insturmental too. I am now much more conscious of being personally holy and sin is so big to me now. I think, though, if I listened to this kind of message every day I would want to crawl in a hole and not come out again. Maybe I am the only one?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- albert from Noerthern Ireland (11/9/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” What a wonderful message,the preacher is correct in all he said. My the Lord bless him for speaking the truth of what it means to have salvation in the LORD. Its not just about saying a prayer,then going and living like hell. There are a few people on this site who say they are trusting in the prayer they have said or on their church and its sacraments. To those who contend with me on this site I lay down a challenge for you to listen to this sermon,then come back and tell me if they are still trusting in their prayer and their papish church sacraments. But Hey Thats Why "ye must be born again"

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- J Hotham from Ebermannstadt, Germany (11/7/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” Very, very powerful message. This message is definately a wake-up call to not only teens or 20-somethings, but also to those who recited the "Sinner's Prayer" years ago. Well said, well formulated, and Glory to God for working through Paul Washer to spread this message!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott from Mpls Mn (11/2/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” Thank you so much brother for standing up for the truth. Its no wonder no one ever gets persecuted for preaching the gospel. Hardly anyone is preaching the true gospel. I am very saddened by "modern day evangelism" and see this false Christianity every time I go out into the streets to minister. I ministered something similar to your message on Monday night at Teen Challenge. I am so tired of messages being preached that are sending people straight to hell. I wept at your message.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LC from Wahington (11/1/2006) “ I wept. ” I wept when I listened to this. I wept for our nation. I wept for my church. I wept for the condition of my heart. How refreshing to hear Gods truth.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig from London,UK (10/30/2006) “ Great Sermon! ” Everyone reading these comments posted.I ask you please please to pray for some dear friends of mine whos names are Monica Palao,Veronique Toto and Daniel Lao.They are sincere Christians who really love the Lord but have been swept away by this evangelical/contemporary wave that is hitting the world like a storm.Like brother Paul says here in his sermon, you say law and they shout legalism.This is exactly what has happened to my friends and they are embracing the ways of the world,trying to bring it into Christianity.We all know though that friendship with the world is emnity with God.Please, please your prayers would be much appreciated.We know we battle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers and the dark forces of the devil and his angels.God is more powerful than this though and all our prayers combined we can see them soundly and safely come back to the ways the Lord intended.God bless,

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RRHOOP5469 from Ohio (10/29/2006) “ AMEN!!! ” Amen...God is getting tired of these lazy christians who do nothing the Bible says to do & sit back & let the atheists take our rights away. Lukewarm Christians. Everyone needs to hear this.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Viniyadas Abraham (10/21/2006) “ Powerful Sermon! ” When most of the Preachers are too concerned about their popularity, and ensure that they leave an impression amongst the audience for them to be called back, Br. Paul Washer stands completely different. His sincere words, "I don't care about reputation" and his desire to send his son to the worst part of the battlefield, powerfully proclaim that he is a true servant of the LORD. May God raise up many more Evangelists as Br. Paul Washer.


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1 posted on 04/12/2007 2:29:26 PM PDT by davidosborne
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To: JennieOsborne; politicallyincarrect; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; ...

PLEASE pass this on to your Christian Friends.. My Dad sent me this link today, and I was blessed/encouraged by it, and want to pass it on to all my Christian FRiends.

FReegards,

David


2 posted on 04/12/2007 2:32:51 PM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

BTTT


3 posted on 04/12/2007 2:34:08 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: JennieOsborne; politicallyincarrect; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; ...

PLEASE pass this on to your Christian Friends.. My Dad sent me this link today, and I was blessed/encouraged by it, and want to pass it on to all my Christian FRiends.

FReegards,

David


4 posted on 04/12/2007 2:34:25 PM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

Not enough references.


5 posted on 04/12/2007 3:48:07 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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This post was intended to be a positive/encouraging message to my Christian Friends... As a result of this post I am starting to get several requests to be REMOVED from my ping list... I will honor these request, but I do not apologize for passing this on.. If anyone listens to this sermon and is offended by this sermon it is likely that you are offended/challenged by the Word of God, not by MY words... or the words of the speaker...

FReegards,

David Osborne


6 posted on 04/12/2007 3:51:22 PM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Ping = Later


7 posted on 04/12/2007 3:55:05 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The answers remain available; Wisdom is obtained by asking all the right questions!)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

references? not sure what you mean my FRiend..


8 posted on 04/12/2007 3:58:49 PM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

references? not sure what you mean my FRiend..


9 posted on 04/12/2007 3:59:06 PM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: davidosborne
David,

Thanks for sending this. I did listen to the entire sermon.

While I agree with what he said about salvation not being easy and cheap, I must admit he approached it in a way where he slammed people with a broad brush.

A personal relationship with Jesus Christ is that, and more. It is personal. It is precious. It is intimate.

While I understand his motivation to shake those whose faith is a mile wide and an inch deep, I can see why people are offended. Not offended by the Word of God, but by his approach. Again, I completely agree with the biblical truth of Sometimes, people need to be encouraged as well as slammed back into reality.

Luke 13: 23-24 is certainly true.

John 6:37 is true as well.

'Him that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out'?"

I also have no use for churches who preach salvation without repentance. I am not a fan of the Rick Warren "feel good" style either.

Biblical truth is hard. They told Christ that in His time, in John Chapter 6:59-60:

"This is hard teaching!"

The bible is like that to me - sometimes it shocks me back into the reality of God's ultimate power - and I fear Him. I also have to reexamine my actions, my life, and my behavior.

But, but, we all need that encouragement that Christ gives. We all fall sometimes, and the Holy Spirit convicts us. It is a terrible thing to know I have grieved the Holy Spirit. But God wants it to be so. But then Christ picks us up.

I can see why this man (Washer) turns some people off because he openly assaults people's relationship with Christ. I know that being confrontational and making people uncomfortable is a better thing than being unsaved and going to Hell. Of course! But I admire people who also reach out and show that mercy of Christ. I kind of see it in this fellow, but I also see an unnecessary iron glove in the face of real Christians where he didn't have to do it in quite that manner.

If I were to question your real faith and commitment to Christ, you David Osborne, you would of course tell me of your faith. And I would believe it. If I persisted, and kept openly questioning your real faith, and trying to make you uncomfortable about it, at some point you would get angry with me.

And I could understand why.

That is the thing about a relationship with Christ - it is personal and intimate too. You don't the history of walking in my shoes, and I don't know yours. There were times in my life when I knew only Christ could understand what I was going through. The tribulations of life made me turn to Him because that was all I could do. I grew, but only because He showed me. Christ knows us better than we know ourselves - and we both take great encouragement in that. To question someone who is in faith about that relationship can come across as grossly offensive and unfair. I can see it being said to someone who you are positive is shallow in their faith - or just went through the motions of a sinner's prayer. But why set off that bomb in a room of 5,000 people without the context of how it applies?

He could have done it a better way in my opinion. A little less stick and a bit more love. This wasn't a group of Goth Atheists for Democrats he was addressing - these were kids celebrating Christ.

I don't like those who brag about the loud T-shirts for God, the over use of the loud "Amens" for attention during service, or the shallow faith I see sometimes also. I know his ultimate purpose was to shake people back into the Word of God.

But, when I heard him say "When I got saved" I wanted to ask him back "Oh, you mean that thing you are saying most people here are not?"

You see, it is almost a broad brush attack when it didn't have to be.

Don't get me wrong, the word of God is true. We must approach our salvation with fear and trembling. But it is an ugly thing to have someone trample on your relationship with Christ without cause.

Please keep me on your ping list, and thanks for this. Despite my words to the contrary, it was very thought provoking and a good listen.

Sky

10 posted on 04/12/2007 5:01:38 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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pflr


11 posted on 04/12/2007 6:00:54 PM PDT by crghill (Jacob Harmenszoon is no friend of mine!)
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To: SkyPilot

Sky,

Your comments are understandable and very much appreciated... I would agree with you if this message was the ONLY message being preached in churches acrsoss American.. I think the point that Mr. Washer made very clearly is that this message is NEVER preached in most churches in America.. I think if THIS sermon was preached once out of every 100 hundred sermons in any given church, the chuch would be well balanced between uplifiting and encourging vs. Harshly critical.... The main reason this message so impressed me was because is was “harshly critical”... and is exactly what I needed to hear, and others have shared the same thing... Personaly, I took this sermon as POSTIVE/ENCOURAGING, I don’t understand how any Christian can take it any other way... Just my 2 cents worth on one of the BEST sermons I have heard in my life, and I have heard a BUNCH.. if you have the time please read my bio at http://www.bio.DavidOsborne.net


12 posted on 04/13/2007 12:34:32 AM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=sermonsspeaker&sermonID=52906154239

If you were blessed by ths sermon please click on the link above to post a public message of appreciate and encouragement to others who have also been blessed by it..


13 posted on 04/13/2007 2:59:08 AM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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I think if THIS sermon was preached once out of every 100 hundred sermons in any given church, the chuch would be well balanced between uplifiting and encourging vs. Harshly critical.... The main reason this message so impressed me was because is was “harshly critical”... and is exactly what I needed to hear, and others have shared the same thing

David - thanks for your sincere reply.

My wife listened to the whole hour sermon last night, and we discussed it afterwards. She agreed with Washer's biblical principle's, and said his warning against those who say they are Christians (yet live a carnal life) needed to be said. She also agreed with his stance that prophet's messages are never embraced.

Again, he provoked a reexamination and thinking, and I believe it was good. I also thought about God's words to parents, however.

"Fathers, do not exasperate your children, lest they lose heart."

Colossians 3:21

I remember my daughter returning from a youth retreat, and telling me about some of the young people there. She met a beautiful teen age girl. After most of the long weekend was over, she finally opened up with her story. It was indescribable. Her father and her uncle had raped her and tortured her multiple times.

I wondered how I would have felt if I was that young girl and listening to Washer's rebuke of that audience.

Again, it was a good post and thanks for sending it.

14 posted on 04/13/2007 3:33:48 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Thanks for a interesting and FRiendly dialogue..

FReegards,

David


15 posted on 04/13/2007 9:00:15 AM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: crghill

looking forward to your comments..


16 posted on 04/13/2007 11:30:54 AM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

After listening to it, all I can say is I’m Sorry God, have mercy on me a sinner!


17 posted on 04/13/2007 11:57:30 AM PDT by crghill (Jacob Harmenszoon is no friend of mine!)
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To: crghill

Amen !


18 posted on 04/13/2007 12:30:23 PM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

bttt


19 posted on 04/14/2007 8:13:25 AM PDT by davidosborne (DavidOsborne.net)
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To: davidosborne

Thanks for the post - HeartCry is doing a fantastic job!


20 posted on 04/15/2007 4:45:39 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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