Posted on 01/12/2006 10:05:48 AM PST by dukeman
The left wing moonbats are coming unglued as the realization of the impotency of their Senate "leaders" sets in. Judge Alito is stomping Uncle Ted and the gang at the confirmation hearings and the moonbats know it. Witness this hand-wringing from DU. ENJOY!:
Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:25 AM
Original message
25 years as a Democrat, and it all boils down to a single SCOTUS nominee
I've been a Democrat for about a quarter century. I've campaigned, donated, and even run for office during that time.
All of it boils down to a single SCOTUS nominee. Alito is the reason I've been a Democrat all these years. I knew an Alito-like nominee would come before the Senate at some point during my lifetime and voted straight Democratic ballots during this time to do my part to insure that any Alito-like nominee would be rejected, at least by enough Senators to keep such an evil man from ever being seated on the court via a filibuster.
Was my devotion to the party worth it?
We'll know soon enough...
Atman (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:28 AM
Response to Original message
1. You need to let the democratic "leaders" know.
All of us do. I agree with you...it is as if everything I've ever believed about this country has been flushed down the toilet. Thrown away for a few lousy votes and some cake. I am so, so disappointed in the democrats. I'm just sick to my stomach. God bless Ted Kennedy for at least trying. The rest of the lot can piss up a rope, for all I care.
Steve_DeShazer (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:29 AM
Response to Original message
2. I think we're screwed, Walt.
I think Alito will get at least 62 votes.
Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #2
6. I think we were screwed five years ago.
So, America, do you get the Supreme Court you deserve?
long_green (434 posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #2
19. If my Democratic Senator votes for Alito I'm going to let her have it. Mary Landrieu, by the way. Oops, did I say "if?" I meant "when."
dogday (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #35
52. The Republicans again have set the stage for these hearings. They have put the word out, the Democrats are mean partisan people who crucified Alito and mad his wife cry. Smell That? Smells like Rove to me!!!!
MadHound (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:31 AM
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4. I hear ya Walt, and in the same boat that you are
It was against my better judgement that I stayed with the Democratic party through the '04 election cycle, but I did.
But now these so-called leaders of ours are going to piss it all away, and betray this country into fascism.
Hello Greens! They may not have the power now, but at least they know how to fight.
Oh, yes, yes moonbat! Spread your wings and fly away! Go Green! Yes! Yes! Yes!
Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. I'm with you
This is my line in the sand:
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This far and no further. This is the straw. If they allow Alito in without a filibuster and the Repukes going nuke, I'm done.
zanne (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #12
46. Same here.
Thirty-two years of organizing, campaigning and donating to the Democratic party will end with a whimper if they don't put up a fight and represent their constituents. If I have to feel ostracized in my own country, I'll do it Green.
Neecy (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:34 AM
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8. I feel your pain
I too have been a life-long Democrat and that isn't because I like their logo or their color schemes but because I believe in certain principles.
Alas, my voice and my concerns are now written off because I'm no longer a citizen but an 'activist'. That's how they ignore us - call us 'activists' and dismiss our concerns like we're some kind of crackpots.
This nomination is my test of this party as well.
Gregorian (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:35 AM
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9. This isn't good enough.
I continue to go back to a previous post of yours. SHUT IT DOWN! Why are we continuing with Bush's agenda? We know he is a fraud. We know the elections were both stolen. We know he has committed high crimes. Many.
Forget Alito. Shut this government down. Stop any further destruction until these criminals are removed.
Edit- I know there's no provision to do this. And I know the repubs would use it every chance, if there were. But there must be a way to stop an administration which is committing high crimes. Pre-impeachment.
Atman (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. Once Scalito is in, rigged machines will be the law of the land.
"Taking it to the Supreme Court" will be a meaningless exercise, no different than taking it to the BFEE themselves.
Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #17
24. It's taken me some time
So much has added up. so many straws on the camel's back. so many times of being on the brink of leaving the party and then thinking, "where would I go?"
There's no more room for straws on the camel's back. I've never been as pissed as I am right now.
MuseRider (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. Point well made,
Nader just may have been right. At 52 years of age I find it one of the most agonizing decisions I have ever made but it has suddenly become very clear to me that if they do not fillibuster then there is no reason to support them because they do not any longer represent my most basic demands of a party and that is to keep democracy safe from fascists like these. If they don't see this they are either stupid or complacent or at the worst complicit.
Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 12:04 PM
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29. I've been a Dem since 1965 and my nose is worn out. The "not as bad" party has moved to the "nearly as bad" party. I'm now voting issues rather than party.
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Atman (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:35 AM
Original message
Is this "hearing" the death of the Democratic Party?
Oh, sure, they'll still be a fundraising organization, but what fucking "party?" We have about two people in DC who are still willing to stand up for the people. What is the point of being a democrat any more?
ewagner (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:38 AM
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1. The media is trying desperately to make it that way...I swear to God, they're marginalizing Democrats every chance they get....they're going absolutely OVERBOARD with their criticism or belittling of the Democratic Party.
I'm very concerned about this.
Very worried.
bryant69 (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:38 AM
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3. It's dissappointing
But not surprising; stopping Alito was a long shot, and everybody knows it.
Atman (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. But if we cannot stop such a blatant liar, what good are we?
Not everyone will be THIS bad, but they will be bad. If we can't muster enough cajones to stand up to a bald-faced liar like Scalito, what chances to we have of ever stopping the republican juggernaut?
Tesha (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #4
10. Why, we're just keeping our powder dry!
Someone in Maryland, there's a whole freaking warehouse full of all that dry powder that the Dems have been squirriling away. A little when they failed to really contest the Selection of 2000, more when they rolled over for all of Bush's nominees including Rice and Ashcroft, more on the USA PATRIOT Act, more on Alberto Gonzalez, more on PATRIOT II, more on Rice's elevation, more on Roberts, and now even more on Scalito.
Why someday, you just know it's gonna blow, and when it does, it's gonna blow big!
long_green (435 posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:41 AM
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5. Been asking myself that question for a while
The party is on the clock as far as I'm concerned. This country is in the hands of criminally insane men who are corrupt and incompetent (as far as actually running a nation is concerned). They have a LOOOONNNNGGGG record to back up anyone making a claim about their corruption, incompetence, and criminality. If the Democratic party cannot work up the passion to energetically oppose this, let alone defeat it, then they do not deserve our votes. If they screw up 2006 and 2008 like I think they will, I will wash my hands of them and start working on creating a politics for post-Imperial, post-prosperity America (if we live to see it).
OR, move to France where you can hang out with the Islamists. Or better yet, how about North Korea?
kurth (651 posts) Thu Jan-12-06 12:15 PM
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15. Yep. Thank you, Asshole Ralph Nader.
And Thank you, Mr. Procrastinator John Kerry.
The far left is coming unglued over the Alito hearings.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I wonder how Karl managed to hypnotize the Dems into shooting themselves in the foot every two months?
What is really sad is they don't realise they are actually on OUR side. We too hate the idea that the fate of our country could be tied to a single supreme court nominee.
We long for a time when the court goes back to its proper role, and the fate of the country is returned to the hands of the PEOPLE of the country, and indirectly to the people's representatives.
When the democrats finally realise that democracy is a good thing, it will be good for them, and for our country -- even though it's fun for us conservatives to see them squirming now.
But for now, when democrats talk about one man, one vote, what they really are talking about is their ability to get their ignorant masses to all vote for the letter "D"; and when they can't, they hope for a court to pass laws supporting their liberal agenda.
I think we can all agree that the Democrats in the House and Senate really do "blow big".
It's the law: Freepers must wash their hands with soap and hot water after visiting DU.
Bwwaaaahaahaaahaaahaaa -- "Ill hold my breath until I turn blue -- no, no, Green, I'll vote Green, that'll show'em!!!!" thanks, dukeman, first laugh I've had today!
You're welcome! These guys crack me up so much, I just can't stay away. It's like rubber-necking as you pass a car wreck on the side of the road. I think I need help!
LOL!
The left is loooooooosing!
The Supreme court IS going Conservative, the President is Conservative, States have pushed Conservative, there are some in the media (still a minority) who are Conservative today, even the Congress is more Conservative and will probably remain such. Many states have gone Red, laws are being pushed that are more red......
There is a rebirth of conservative values in the US. The Democrats don't see it, but they are out of touch with what America is. America is essentially a conservative nation built on conservative and Christian values. The US is neither Secular nor do we believe in most of the other values that the liberal left tells us are the better choices. Ask most Americans their opinion on Abortion. Ask most Americans what they think of Capital punishment. The last elections were lost because neither Gore nor Kerry represent the values of this nation. That's why it's important for the GOP to stay value focused not just in rhetoric but in action. What do the Democrats represent? Think about it! What is the Democratic position? Near 70% of America DISagrees with the Democrats on abortion. By pandering to vocal but fringe groups they have alienated themselves from the mainstream. the Democrats have to "pretend" to represent mainstream American values to win. Kerry showed this with his flip flopping on abortion, gun control and other issues. Bush said what he thinks and feels about it, Kerry has to lie and in a reserved way "act" like he's mainstream all awhile he panders to the radical elements out there that think late term abortions should be allowed.
The GOP needs to deliver, not worry about pandering to the left! Bush was elected by the Vigilantes on the boarder! He was elected by the Bible thumpers who acted in the case of Terri Schievo. Bush will NEVER gain the approval of the far left. They didnt support his presidency nor his election. Bush should have acted earlier in regards to the boarder, maybe should have intervened with Terri Schievo. If the GOP wants to get crushed, then they need to abandon those who put them in power. They need to start watering down their agenda. America WANTS this conservative revolution. We made him the President to do just that. Deliver and stay on course needs to be the theme! Get the word out and stay proactive and aggressive. As his drop in the polls showed, he cant sit on his rear. If he does that he will lose the initiative. Dear Mr. President, no one who voted or supports you cares about what is written in the NYTs! The French opinion polls are not very important to us. Pick a conservative judge. Do that which we elected you to do.
Red6
but The DUmmies have the nastiest posts here, here, and the big nasty thread showing how low and classless the moonbats are, here:Alito's Wife Leaves Hearing Room in Tears.
Smells like Rove to me!!!!
I love the smell of Rove in the morning! It smells like victory!
LOLOL!!!
Hamlette (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 02:50 PM
Original message
Justice Alito, get used to it, move on
I'm not happy about it but I've not heard anything that will defeat his nomination. Remember Clarence Thomas? I'm worried its a distraction at this point. Abramoff, House leadership...Iran.
Little Star (347 posts) Wed Jan-11-06 02:56 PM
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2. I agree with one stipulation
first call or e-mail your reps and let them know whats on your mind. Seems that this is a no win situation. Focus on Alito like they want us to (go read freep republic) or keep Abramoff, House leadership, Iran on the front burner. I personally think Alito is already decided.
Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 02:57 PM
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4. I WON'T "get used to it" and I WILL move on away from teh Democratic PArty.
It's that simple. If the Democrats do not filibuster, the Democratic PArty is hopeless and thus not worth my time or effort.
Nutmegger (459 posts) Wed Jan-11-06 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. Yes, I agree
I'm tired of the spinelessness. I'd rather fight for a worthy third party like the Greens.
Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #14
19. But- but- havent you heard that comforting talking point yet?
Keep your powder dry, Walt!
That's right- keep it dry- for "the next time."
Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #19
22. I bought that line hook line and sinker over Roberts So this was the time we kept our powder dry for.
And if they don't filibuster now, the Democratic PArty is in collusion with the republican Party and I need no further evidence.
Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #50
51. But Democrats dont appoint "far left" judges- we appoint moderates.
The other huge difference is that Bush is the most unpopular, dishonest & corrupt President in history. If we had a prez as corrupt, criminal and unpopular as Bush, then we should not expect confirmation either.
Alito is a facist and a racist- Democrats dont appoint "far left" judges- we appoint moderates.
Caving in to Bush and "playing fair" with him has never worked. Can you show me when it has?
Alito is a liar and a racist, and should not be awarded a life-time appointment.
I'll assume that Democrats who enable him or defend his confirmation have no problem with his positions.
Hamlette (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #51
62. whatever....dude
the left has become as looney as Rush/Robertson...if it begins to believe things like "Bush is the most unpopular, dishonest and corrupt President in history" or "Alito is a facist" or "Democrats don't appoint "far left" judges - we appoint moderates".
Know thine enemy. And your history.
Congress has moved further right than the country. If you want your country back, find out why and fix it.
Complaining about the Alito nomination by calling him names is not productive.
Hey, wait a minute! Who let an adult onto DU?
Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #64
67. Right- the public NEVER responds to name calling- (see "Flip-flopper")
Also, see the demonization of the word "Liberal" in the 80's & 90's.
Gotcha- the public does not respond to name calling.
Common Sense Party (108 posts) Thu Jan-12-06 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. Fine. You like calling Bush a Nazi? Just keep it up. See where it gets you.
in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #4
43. If they don't filibuster we won't have to worry about switching parties. The Democratic party will be FINISHED. It's that simple. Bush will be King, we'll have religion in schools, abortion will be illegal, we will forever be under surveillance, we will never have another fair election and....we'll be finished.
bush still has to go (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #43
46. Which is also why the R's aren't worried about their own shitstorm
Once Alito's in, all that crap gets locked away for good. First order of business (after Alito tosses abortion rights into the dumpster) will likely to make criticism of the executive a federal offense.
Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 03:49 PM
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13. I dont know how I'll forgive Democrats for allowing facism & racism.
How does one go about forgiving the enablers of facism and racism?
If Democrats dont Fillibuster, I will laugh at them when they ask me for money or volunteer time.
I dont give money or volunteer time to those who meekly enable facism and racism.
Jacobin (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 03:53 PM
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16. We're stuck, apparently the last branch of government that was possible to save from disaster is about to be gone, not that it was much to begin with considering Bush v. Gore
alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:13 PM
Response to Reply #21
41. It's clouds illusions you recall
But you'll only be disappointed again. It's all over but your weeping.
Hyernel (550 posts) Wed Jan-11-06 04:13 PM
Response to Original message
23. That's a thread title Karl Rove would be proud of. Alito must not take the bench. It's too important. FILIBUSTER!!!!!!!!
bush still has to go (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-11-06 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #26
40. Moving right on to fascism
"So get over it, kiss your rights goodbye for the last time, and get lost"
SW FL Dem (1000+ posts) Thu Jan-12-06 12:54 AM
Response to Original message
58. I am afraid you are right.
I hate it, but I it will take a miracle to prevent his confirmation and I don't see one coming. Our only hope is that we can gain leverage in 2006 and slowly begin to get our country back.
Wow! This one still has hope.
m_welby (324 posts) Thu Jan-12-06 01:15 PM
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76. It would take something like personally killing babies for him to go down
It's done.
I hope (but don't expect) the Dems to fight all the way and vote against him, but in the end, he will be on the court. This was decided the day GW was re-selected.
It is a tragedy, a crime, possibly the beginning of the end of democracy in this nation, but it will happen.
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