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Republican CIA agent: what to make of this?
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Larry_Johnson_on_Carl%20Rove%202.mp3 ^

Posted on 07/18/2005 2:33:18 PM PDT by Perlstein

This CIA agent says it's common for uncover agents working overseas to also work from desks at Langley...

(Excerpt) Read more at movies.crooksandliars.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: cia; plame; rove
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1 posted on 07/18/2005 2:33:21 PM PDT by Perlstein
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To: Perlstein

If Valerie Plame were really undercover when all of this happened the Dems would be screaming it from the rooftops. Also, her old Boss was on TV the other day and I think he said she was never under deep cover and hadn't been under any cover in the 7 years previous.


2 posted on 07/18/2005 2:36:20 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: Perlstein

Anything is possible, but this has nothing to do with Valerie Plame.


3 posted on 07/18/2005 2:37:23 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: msnimje

And we're to believe that Judith Miller went to jail to protect Karl Rove?


4 posted on 07/18/2005 2:37:29 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: Perlstein
.......sounds like a 'British' Al-Qaeda .......'Yard' story?

/sarcasm

(Stay outta the 'Tube'....when trains are coming?)

5 posted on 07/18/2005 2:37:38 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Perlstein
Joe Wilson already admitted she was not under cover and:

Plame was not a covert agent. She had not been covert for nine years as she was outed by Aldrich Ames prior to 1994 and then again by the Cubans. She was assigned a desk job as an analyst at that time for her own safety.

The identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame was compromised twice before her name appeared in a news column that triggered a federal illegal-disclosure investigation, U.S. officials say.

Mrs. Plame's identity as an undercover CIA officer was first disclosed to Russia in the mid-1990s by a Moscow spy, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity. In a second compromise, officials said a more recent inadvertent disclosure resulted in references to Mrs. Plame in confidential documents sent by the CIA to the U.S. Interests Section of the Swiss Embassy in Havana.

The documents were supposed to be sealed from the Cuban government, but intelligence officials said the Cubans read the classified material and learned the secrets contained in them, the officials said.

Washington Times

She would have had to have been covert in the last five years for Rove to have broken the law, per former Assistant Deputy Attorney General Victoria Toensing, who helped draft the 1982 law in question.

For Plame's outing to have been illegal, the one-time deputy AG explained, "her status as undercover must be classified." Also, Plame "must have been assigned to duty outside the United States currently or in the past five years."
Case closed.
6 posted on 07/18/2005 2:38:37 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: My2Cents
Yes, exactly! Who is Judith Miller protecting? A former administration official?
7 posted on 07/18/2005 2:39:44 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: msnimje
"Also, her old Boss was on TV the other day and I think he said she was never under deep cover and hadn't been under any cover in the 7 years previous."

Did you see the old Boss? Did anyone ask him how he knew everything he was claiming to know since he left the Agency in 1990?

8 posted on 07/18/2005 2:39:53 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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She certainly looks undercover to me. I mean, her scarf and huge sunglasses just scream out "Covert Operative."

Now, he, on the other hand, looks like a Democrat Party hack.

9 posted on 07/18/2005 2:40:04 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: Yo-Yo

That's my theory (adjusting my tinfoil hat). I'd bet the ranch her informant is a Clinton hold-over in the Bush White House...A Richard Clarke-type.


10 posted on 07/18/2005 2:42:12 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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Sure. I'm guessing SP Fitzgerald doesn't know any of the facts, or allegations, you've included, so why don't you just forward this along to him and I'm sure he'll go right ahead and shut the whole thing down.


11 posted on 07/18/2005 2:42:17 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul
and I'm sure he'll go right ahead and shut the whole thing down.

And end his lucrative gig?

12 posted on 07/18/2005 2:45:39 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: My2Cents

That's an interesting take. Any indication that he gets paid any more for this gig than he was making before? Or was that just a preview of the eventual Fitzgerald slurring?


13 posted on 07/18/2005 2:47:07 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul
Fitzgerald slurring

Is that anything like "Rove slurring"?

14 posted on 07/18/2005 2:53:13 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: lugsoul
Did you see the old Boss? Did anyone ask him how he knew everything he was claiming to know since he left the Agency in 1990?

No, I didn't as I was listening while working so did not hear everything. But I would assume he still has connections with people inside the CIA.

15 posted on 07/18/2005 2:53:29 PM PDT by msnimje
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To: My2Cents

LOL

He does look like a Democrat Party hack, doesn't he.


16 posted on 07/18/2005 2:53:39 PM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: lugsoul
Well, smart-a**...if you could keep up, you'd know it is no longer about that...the investigation has branched off into other issues:

But legal sources say there are indications the prosecutor is looking at two other areas related to the administration's handling of his investigation. One possible legal vulnerability is perjury, if officials did not testify truthfully to a federal grand jury, and another is obstructing justice, if they tried to coordinate cover stories to obscure facts.

Washington Post

17 posted on 07/18/2005 2:53:54 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: My2Cents

Probably pretty similar, except an SP really can't respond. Can't, rather than won't.


18 posted on 07/18/2005 2:54:05 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: My2Cents
And we're to believe that Judith Miller went to jail to protect Karl Rove?

Really. I am so very interested to know what the Prosecutor knows about Judy Miller that we don't. Is this going to end up with The Plame-Wilsons in jail?

19 posted on 07/18/2005 2:55:25 PM PDT by msnimje
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I assume so, too. But at no point have I heard him characterize his allegations as what he has heard. It tends to sound pretty authoritative.

Frankly, I think he is just like about 1/2 of the figures in the media on this story - completely full of it.

How would he know that her neighbors knew her job? How come her neighbors deny that they did?

20 posted on 07/18/2005 2:56:09 PM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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