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Undocumented Border Patrol Target Undocumented Immigrants (Liberal Rant on Minutemen)
Democracy Now ^ | April 8, 2005 | Amy Goodman

Posted on 04/09/2005 7:48:17 PM PDT by marylandrepub1

(Magdalano Rose-Avila, the executive director of the Northwest Immigrant Rights Project )'Well, I think that it’s kind of incredible that American citizens can go to the border, many of them armed, and intervene in what is a legal process between the Border Patrol and undocumented immigrants that are coming here. This case with Mr. Barton and his friends doing this, this is ludicrous. They should never have been allowed to detain this man. That was against the regulations, against what they said they were going to do. But it is part of what we believe is an inflamed environment, almost racist, against immigrants, that they think that they're at the border to stop undocumented workers, al Qaeda and who knows what else by sitting in their campers. Their stopping this individual is just a preview of worse things that could happen. 'I think they should get them out of there right away. Second, is I think we need to educate people about the immigrant issue, and what the issues really are, and why this country is dependent on immigrants, why we couldn't live without them and how we must have immigration reform in order to deal with the problem. But right now, having U.S. citizens who think they're doing right but are doing wrong, is going to cause more problems than it’s going to help in the issue. We call it the ‘clash of the undocumented’, undocumented immigrants and undocumented border patrol agents. It really isn't resolving the issue. As long as there is disparity, people are going to come here. The economies around the world where we have invested moneys and put Maquilladores and everything, that haven’t functioned well, those countries' economics are in ruin or their politics are in ruin, they come to this country to work.

(Excerpt) Read more at democracynow.org ...


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Disparity between us and other countries?? I thought people were starving in our country according to these libs. These people should be running away.
1 posted on 04/09/2005 7:48:18 PM PDT by marylandrepub1
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To: marylandrepub1
"Almost racist," huh?

Sure. To liberals protecting the border from Third World invaders is necessarily "racist."

2 posted on 04/09/2005 7:50:06 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary
Sure. To liberals protecting the border from Third World invaders is necessarily "racist."

They seem to be a vocal minority around here as well.

3 posted on 04/09/2005 7:51:04 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Wormwood

I just wish they would either grow up or shut up!!!!!!


4 posted on 04/09/2005 7:53:04 PM PDT by lolhelp
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To: marylandrepub1
I thought people were starving in our country according to these libs.

Only during Republican administrations.
5 posted on 04/09/2005 7:55:00 PM PDT by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: marylandrepub1
This case with Mr. Barton and his friends doing this, this is ludicrous.

I agree. A wanna be politician seeking campaign material pulled a publicity stunt that blew up in his face.

They should never have been allowed to detain this man.

Now your just flappin your jaws. They we found innocent by ALL the authorities.

6 posted on 04/09/2005 7:55:32 PM PDT by MamaTexan (Minutemen.....the REAL American heroes!!)
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To: marylandrepub1
We call it the ‘clash of the undocumented’, undocumented immigrants and undocumented border patrol agents.

I would call it a clash between documented US citizens protecting America against, call it what it is, 'illegal alien invaders'.

7 posted on 04/09/2005 7:56:23 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: marylandrepub1
This article compressed to one word.
8 posted on 04/09/2005 7:58:28 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: marylandrepub1

.....sadly enough, average citizens waking up and doing what their lazy, voter bloc addled politicians refuse to do.


9 posted on 04/09/2005 7:58:30 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: MamaTexan

That stupid program had some guy lobbying for the 'human rights' of MS-13 gang members the other day. Those are the guys that were behind those machete attacks in Massachusetts a couple months back. They are involved all kinds of bad juju, like beheadings, arson, drive-bys, you name it.

That liberal idiot was talking about those poor deported MS-13 gangbangers like they were political prisoners or something.

Apparently he was worried the Minutemen might run into one of those dirtbags trying to get back into the US and violate their 'civil rights'.


10 posted on 04/09/2005 7:59:21 PM PDT by boofus
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To: marylandrepub1

Yes, we certainly wouldn't wish to subject any additional Mexicans to persecution would we?


11 posted on 04/09/2005 8:02:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: marylandrepub1
Undocumented Border Patrol Target Undocumented Immigrants

Volunteer Citizen Border Patrol Targets Illegal Immigrants

Now that's closer to the truth.

12 posted on 04/09/2005 8:02:21 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: marylandrepub1
the Debbie Downer skit on Saturday Night Live is a spoof of that POS AmyGoodwin!!!

that skank is in dire need of a good near death experience to give her a little "Come to Jesus" moment and get her mind right...

13 posted on 04/09/2005 8:02:22 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: boofus
Gotta love this:

MAGDALANO ROSE-AVILA: Well, the tattoos is the way you -- you know, not everybody can publish a book and talk about the history. So one is you do the tattoos to create your own history. If you look at a gang member's tattoos across their body, across their face, first thing that they put is the tattoo of their gang so that they say I’m proud of being who I am. Then if you look down their chest or their arms, you begin to see when they were incarcerated, when they lost their favorite friend, when their mother died, their father died, because nobody else is recording their history. That’s what the tattoos -- the tattoos are a living history for gang members. I can tell you from working with Mara Salvatrucha in El Salvador and L.A. and Calle 18 (18th Street), these people want a chance to have a better life. And I think that America can give it to them.

14 posted on 04/09/2005 8:04:00 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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(Magdalano Rose-Avila, the executive director of the Northwest Immigrant Rights Project )

No reason to read this after I saw the above.

15 posted on 04/09/2005 8:05:44 PM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return With Honor")
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To: marylandrepub1

If the higher ups at the border patrol didn't suffer from a bad case of cranial rectal inversion, they would welcome the volunteers. A little coordination and cooperation would remove the problem of the volunteers tripping the sensors, which seems to be the only beef the BP has with the Minutemen.


16 posted on 04/09/2005 8:09:47 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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No reason to read this after I saw the above.

....it set the tone, that's for certain.

17 posted on 04/09/2005 8:10:59 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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"I think that it’s kind of incredible that American citizens can go to the border, many of them armed, and intervene in what is a legal process between the Border Patrol and undocumented immigrants that are coming here."

This crap is so freakin sad that you have to laugh. It's just a legal process like paying a parking ticket or renewing your license not the intervention into the commission of a crime. How utterly and completely absurd.

If Magdalano Rose-Avila is so damn concerning with legal processes then why in the hell is she an advocate for illegal aliens and thereby an aider and abetter of criminal invaders.

How about this exchange on the subject of gangs & terrorists.

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AMY GOODMAN: What about this issue of al Qaeda, and particularly somehow linking al Qaeda with a Salvadoran gang. Can you talk about that? You’ve spent many years in El Salvador working with gangs.

MAGDALANO ROSE-AVILA: Right, and I was the founder of Homies Unidos, that continues to work with gangs in El Salvador and Los Angeles, both with what they call MS-13 (La Mara Salvatrucha), Calle 18 (18th Street) and to say – you know, gangs are an issue. They’re a phenomenon that was created by the wars in Central America and people fleeing up here. That's what created them, and then we deported them, and they started gangs in Central America. But to think that al Qaeda would get the most identifiable group of immigrants and ask them to bring rocket launchers and weapons of mass destruction – I can just see a bunch of homies, you know, home boys and home girls, saying, “Hola rey! Do you have your rocket launcher? Let's bring it across the border,” with their baggy pants, their tattoos, shaved heads. It is not happening. That is a shell game that they are doing. They arrested 103 gang members in this country to say they’re doing something about terrorists. They couldn't find the weapons of mass destruction, that's a lie. They'll never find gang members associated with al Qaeda, that's a lie, and it should stop today,


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18 posted on 04/09/2005 8:13:03 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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They’re a phenomenon that was created by the wars in Central America and people fleeing up here. That's what created them, and then we deported them, and they started gangs in Central America.

You know what the message is here, don't you?.........it's actually America's fault, our opposition to Marxist groups in this region led to war, and when they came here we deprted undesirables, and since we did that, the poor would otherwise be docile farm workers and quiet gardeners had to turn to gangs when they were deported.......and now that they've snuck back here, we owe them ACLU lawyers and a liberal system to protect their status of misjudged gang members.

19 posted on 04/09/2005 8:20:44 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
......and we're not being sensitive enough. Just read the tattoos, the story of their maltreatment and oppression is there if one looks hard enough.

Shop it to Oprah, lady.

20 posted on 04/09/2005 8:24:13 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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