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Doctor: The "Water" in Terri’s Brain is a Myth [CT Scan Found As Well As Bone Scan Of Terri]
MediaCulpa ^ | March 22, 2005 | Unknown

Posted on 03/23/2005 5:31:11 AM PST by conservativecorner

You have probably heard Michael Schiavo’s attorney George Felos say things such as this about Terri Schiavo’s brain:

"CT scans just don't lie. When you look at that picture, you see a big black hole filled with water where her brain used to be," Felos said. "There is no cognition, no thought process, no awareness."

Now the doctor at CodeBlueBlog has found the CT scan that Felos is referring to, and what the doctor has discovered is both shocking and wonderful: Felos is wrong, the courts have been wrong. Terri’s brain is not damaged as much as we have been led to believe.

Update: The doctor has also looked at Terri's bone scan report, and concludes that "someone either was physically abusing Terri or they dropped/mishandled her severely."

CodeBlueBlog:

The most alarming thing about this image . . . is that there certainly is cortex left. Granted, it is severely thinned, especially for Terri's age, but I would be nonplussed if you told me that this was a 75 year old female who was somewhat senile but fully functional, and I defy a radiologist anywhere to contest that.

I HAVE SEEN MANY WALKING, TALKING, FAIRLY COHERENT PEOPLE WITH WORSE CEREBRAL/CORTICAL ATROPHY. THEREFORE, THIS IS IN NO WAY PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE THAT TERRI SCHIAVO'S MENTAL ABILITIES OR/OR CAPABILITIES ARE COMPLETELY ERADICATED. I CANNOT BELIEVE SUCH TESTIMONY HAS BEEN GIVEN ON THE BASIS OF THIS SCAN.

The worrisome, no alarming thing, for me, was that I heard a bioethicist and several important figures on the major media describe Terri's brain as MUCH WORSE. One "expert" said that she had a "bag of water" in her head. Several experts described her as a "brain stem preparation"

These statements are wholly inaccurate. This is an atrophied brain, yes, but there is cortex remaining, and where there's cortex (?life) there's hope.

If you starve this woman to death it would be, in my professional and experienced medical opinion, the equivalent of starving to death a 75-85 year old person. I would take that to the witness stand.

Wouldn’t you love to see the CodeBlueBlog doctor get the chance to take the witness stand and explain that Terri doesn’t have a "bag of water" in her brain? Spread the word about what the doctor has discovered -- and if you have an in with the Schindlers or their attorneys, please direct them to the CodeBlueBlog web site, where they can contact the doctor.

I just found Terri's 1991 bone scan and I believe she was I just found Terri's 1991 bone scan and I believe she was I just found Terri's 1991 bone scan and I believe she was abused, physically.

Link to bone scan.


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Thanks to reader "primer" I've been directed to the University of Miami Ethics program website where they posted this image from a CT scan of Terri Schiavo's brain in 1996. The sentence attached to the link for this scan on the site says:

CT scan of Ms. Schiavo's brain, showing extensive cortical regions filled with spinal fluid.

If you go to this link you can see the scan in a larger reproduction.

1 posted on 03/23/2005 5:31:11 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner
The information in your post from a "doctor" is not correct (with regard to the head CT).

I have no further comment, but you should not base anything on what you are citing. It's wrong.

2 posted on 03/23/2005 5:36:00 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: conservativecorner

More facts?


3 posted on 03/23/2005 5:40:11 AM PST by G.Mason (I'm a prodigality technician for a major corporation and hunt lichens in my time off.)
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To: Jim Noble
Here's the actual link to the brain scan from the University of Miami:

http://www.miami.edu/ethics/schiavo/CT%20scan.png

Now please tell me what you are talking about.
4 posted on 03/23/2005 5:41:44 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: G.Mason

Can you be more specific regarding what you mean by facts?


5 posted on 03/23/2005 5:44:05 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner

Terri apparently has more gray matter then most of the people around her, Why for the love of god don't they do a current scan and put this issue to rest? Because m.shiavo knows better? He wants her cremated right away. Destroying any evidence of this "GRAVE ERROR". (this is no pun)........


6 posted on 03/23/2005 5:44:24 AM PST by lionheart 247365
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To: Jim Noble

This same doctor, viewing only the bone scan report, came up with a nearly identical analysis as the doctor who originally analyzed the bone scan, whose testimony was located afterwards. That gives him some credibility. On what basis should his analysis of the CT scan be disregarded?


7 posted on 03/23/2005 5:45:55 AM PST by thoughtomator (Murder by Judges, 1 - 2 - 3, it's as easy to learn as your ABCBSCNNMSNBCs)
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To: lionheart 247365

Because the husband will not allow a CT Scan, MRI or PET Scan on Terri. He wants here dead.


8 posted on 03/23/2005 5:46:11 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Jim Noble
I have no further comment, but you should not base anything on what you are citing. It's wrong.

You have no comment at all, then. If you are unwilling or unable to dispense some of the special knowledge you claim to have, then it is useless to you and everyone else on this board, sir.

9 posted on 03/23/2005 5:49:11 AM PST by MortMan (CON is the opposite of PRO. Is Congress therefore the opposite of progress?)
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To: conservativecorner

Impossible.

Michael is a caring, loving husband who is only looking out for her best interests and wishes. He said so.


10 posted on 03/23/2005 5:49:16 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: lionheart 247365
Agreed, just do some modern scans on her NOW to settle these kinds of arguments. What's the harm? A PET scan can even show signs of activity. Do it!

This may seem like a strange comparison, but it reminds me of Tim McVeigh...hurry up, kill him and bury him before he can talk.

11 posted on 03/23/2005 5:50:31 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: thoughtomator
On what basis should his analysis of the CT scan be disregarded?

I'm not going to get back into this and be called a murderer and worse again.

I'm a FReeper since 5/98, I'm a physician who has seen many scans and many patients with brain injury, and I'm just telling you that the vast majority of consultants who have seen this scan are right and this blogger is wrong.

Believe what you like.

12 posted on 03/23/2005 5:51:12 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: conservativecorner

I would be interested in hearing from anyone in the medical field on FR in ref to this article and pics you've posted. I've heard and read enough to make me at least doubtful this woman has been given proper testing and diagnosis.

There are so many conflicting reports and apparent agendas in this case it boggles the mind.


13 posted on 03/23/2005 5:52:19 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: Jim Noble

I'm not going to call you a murderer, I just want information. Right now, that's the only detailed analysis of the CT scan that's available. If there's a reason to doubt it, I would like to know what that reason is.


14 posted on 03/23/2005 5:53:41 AM PST by thoughtomator (Murder by Judges, 1 - 2 - 3, it's as easy to learn as your ABCBSCNNMSNBCs)
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To: conservativecorner

ping


15 posted on 03/23/2005 5:55:35 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: conservativecorner
From the doctor's Code Blue Website:

THE AWARD WINNING MEDICAL WEBLOG

2004 MEDICAL WEBLOGS AWARDS: BEST CLINICAL SCIENCES WEBLOG

FINALIST: 2004 Weblog Awards: Best of the Top 2500 - 3500 Blogs

2004 MEDICAL WEBLOGS AWARDS FINALIST: BEST MEDICAL WEBLOG

16 posted on 03/23/2005 5:56:15 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Jim Noble
Jim:

It's the juvenile "my doctor can beat up your doctor" syndrome.

BTW, do not become upset by an assortment of character flaws who called you a murderer.

17 posted on 03/23/2005 5:59:01 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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To: Jim Noble
And what is your specialty? I don't want an orthopod trying to read a CT Scan of the brain which is the responsibility of a radiologist and/or neurologist.
19 posted on 03/23/2005 6:01:14 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Mathemagician
Meanwhile, do you disagree with his evaluation of the bone scans as well? Is he or is he not correct that there is evidence suggesting abuse in Terri's past?

The bone scans show injury.

I don't do forensics, and have no basis to affirm or deny the mecahnism of the injuries.

20 posted on 03/23/2005 6:02:52 AM PST by Jim Noble
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