Posted on 02/24/2005 7:33:06 PM PST by Just Kimberly
Intro - " The Liberty League" www.libertyleague.com A friend called tonight and wanted an opinion regarding this new found company he is considering jumping into.I checked the site out, and could not discover what products were being sold, and when I clicked 'products' it asked for MY info. Out of curiosity, I then went to the BBB. The report was disturbing, so I posted it to my journal. Maybe this will save someone a little heartache."
"The Better Business Bureau 4428 N. 12th Street Phoenix, AZ 85014-4585 602-264-1721 info@phoenix.bbb.org
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LIBERTY LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL, LLC 14300 N. Northsight Blvd. #210 Scottsdale, AZ 85260
Principal: Brent Payne, Contact Phone Number: 480-636-7400 Fax Number: 480-595-5658 Web Site Address: www.libertyleague.com www.success1234U.com www.unlockyourfreedom.com Membership Status: no Type of Business: Business Opportunity Cos. Advertising-Direct Mail Pyramid Companies
The information in this report has either been provided by the company, or has been compiled by the Bureau from other sources.
This company is not a member of this Better Business Bureau.
CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau due to unresolved complaints and a pattern of complaints. Complaints are concerning selling practices. Specifically, complaints allege misrepresentation of the products or services offered by the company and an inability to cancel the sale or service in accordance with the company's three-day refund policy. Complaints also state that significant fees are involved which are not communicated at the time of the sale. One complaint is unresolved.
LICENSING INFORMATION
This company is in an industry that may require licensing, bonding or registration in order to lawfully do business. The Bureau encourages you to check with the appropriate agency to be certain any requirements are currently being met.
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS NAMES
This company also does business as: LLI.
ADDITIONAL TELEPHONE NUMBERS
Additional phone numbers for this company include: (800) 807-9997.
ADDITIONAL ADDRESSES
Additional addresses for this company include: PMB 106, 8912 E. Pinnacle Peak Rd. #106, Scottsdale, AZ 85255.
ADDITIONAL FILE INFORMATION
The Bureau has requested basic information from this company. The Bureau has not received a response.
Prospective investors should carefully examine a multi-level sales program to be reasonably certain it is not a pyramid scheme which emphasizes recruitment of distributors rather than retail sale of the product. Investors should be wary of promises of high potential earnings, especially without effort, time and serious personal commitment. No more than a minimal initial inventory should be required to become a distributor, and a reliable firm will guarantee in writing that unsold products will be bought back for a certain percentage of the original price. Pyramid schemes are illegal in virtually every state. The fact that some underlying program is offered does not make them legal. Anyone who participates in these programs could also be subject to criminal prosecution. Consumers are advised to call their local Attorney General and the Federal Trade Commission for more information.
The Bureau's pamphlet, "Tips on Multi-Level Marketing," is available upon request.
EDUCATIONAL/GENERAL COMMENTS
If you are considering investing in a business opportunity, the Better Business Bureau suggests the following tips to help you avoid falling victim to a business opportunity fraud.
1] Ask the company where it is incorporated and whether it has an in-state office; ask for names of owners and officers, their backgrounds, and prior business experience. Verify the information with the BBB or another impartial outside organization.
2] If you will be selling a product, ask questions about it, what it will cost you, your source of supply, any performance claims and guarantees, the company's replacement and repair policies and procedures for handling complaints from you or your customers.
3] Ask about any initial fees you will be required to pay and what they are to be used for. If you will be marketing a service, verify all costs and ask for a detailed written agreement specifying the type and duration of assistance with start up procedures and obtaining clients.
4] Get written copies of the company's business and financial statements and other important documents. Ask an accountant, attorney or outside financial expert to review the materials.
5] Investigate and verify all information received from the salesperson.
6] Consult with people who know the particular product or type of business you may be entering. Review with them the selling company's claims conserning marketability of the product, pricing, projected profits, etc. You may want to review the contract and other documents with an attorney.
7] Independently contact some of the people who have already invested in the product or service about their experience.
8] If you decide to invest, get all promises in writing and the contract signed by an authorized agent of the company. If you suspect fraud, contact the Better Business Bureau.
REPORT DATE: 02/24/2005
COPYRIGHT DATE: 2005 The Better Business Bureau
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Whenever one sees "pyramid" or "MLM"(multi-level-marketing), one should avoid any dealings with that company.
Very True in most cases. There are a FEW MLM companies out there which are very legitimate. But very FEW. When I first became unemployed a year ago, amazingly my email was flooded with 'at-home' jobs - many of which turned out to be scams. It is always wise to do your homework and proceed with extreme caution with a MLM.
My rule of thumb has become - if the company doesn't point me toward a product within the first page, then I am outta' there!
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Apparently it's worth mentioning that there is a huge difference between a 'work at home job' and a 'home based business'.
In one (the job), you are an employee working for someone else. In the other, you're actually starting your own business.
Another reply below...
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JustKimberly said, "My rule of thumb has become - if the company doesn't point me toward a product within the first page, then I am outta' there!"
REPLY: In the case of Liberty League, the first page is all about product. In fact there's not much about the pay plan or the business opportunity on the site.
Tony Rush
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