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1 posted on 01/13/2005 8:54:28 AM PST by FreeMarket1
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Good article.

Let me ask you a question: If public schools are eliminated, what replaces them? Do poor kids stop going to school, or do they get vouchers? I'm just interested in your opinion, because I have thought about this a lot.


2 posted on 01/13/2005 8:58:12 AM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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So the teachers cheat on the tests and it's Bush' fault?

Of course!


3 posted on 01/13/2005 8:58:31 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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Doesn't "No Child Left Behind" mean No Child Gets Ahead?

ML/NJ

4 posted on 01/13/2005 9:00:22 AM PST by ml/nj
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One procedure, not in and of itself illegal is to “pre-teach” to the test by using examples that are similar to what the test will cover. Other activities teachers engage in are apparently frankly fraudulent, however.

Nothing wrong with teaching examples like those found on the test. Presumably the test contains the types of problems we want a student to be able to solve. Cheating is different, these teachers need to be fired, and student cheating needs to be stopped.

5 posted on 01/13/2005 9:03:16 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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The trends toward more expensive - and inefficient - public education, driven by teachers' unions and a political process that finds it expedient to grant increasingly exorbitant union demands each year, is not abating. It is possibly a broken system, one in which the resources for a rennaisance may not be present.

This was recognized in the 70's in a book called "The Education Hoax" which advocated new school boards, new administrations and new teachers. But clearly wan not within the reach of the public.

6 posted on 01/13/2005 9:04:55 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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"THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS LOWERED, NOT RAISED THE LITERACY RATE: Before the Civil War, the literacy rate in the North was around 97 percent and in the South about 80 percent."

This guys numbers are obviously high - even if you exclude the Black population. Agenda? Bias? Truth? Naw ...

7 posted on 01/13/2005 9:06:30 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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education bump


9 posted on 01/13/2005 9:19:01 AM PST by rommy
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Personally, I made damned sure my children WERE "left behind" by homeschooling them and keeping them from the clutches of the socialists.

They are now grown and very successful and happy, thank god.

NCLB is indeed nothing but enforcement of the socialist brainwashing system.


11 posted on 01/13/2005 9:26:31 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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Pretty good article.


13 posted on 01/13/2005 10:04:54 AM PST by jcb8199
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There seems to be a pattern lately of the dems saying that everything Bush does IS BASED ON FALSIFIED DATA.

Has anybody else noticed this.

My take: Because Bush won't take the dems advice, then the data Bush is using is not valid.


16 posted on 01/13/2005 10:20:06 AM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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