[KQQL]

GET REAL.

She was trying to HAVE A baby ,,,

[Hildy]

Don't even bother with people like this. They're crazy. And I'm not afraid to say it either.

[ridesthemiles]

Get Real barely covers it.

Would you deny a person cancer treatments if they "couldn't clear themselves of the cancer by themselves without medical intervention"?

[KQQL]

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[Sunnyvale CA Eng.]

Using the troubled logic above male masturbation would be equivalent to genocide.

[Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh]

What is better?

For 1 baby to be born, grow, learn to know and love god, and become saved, with 1 embyro lost in the process of IVF........or for the 1 baby to never have existed at all?

Abortion is sick and wrong. But people who criticize people who are Trying to Have Children in terms of the extra embryos? You need to rechannel your energy into something less crazy.

[Blacksheep]

My wife and I did seven invitros too. No luck now we have two beautiful adopted kids. Our embryos never had a chance. Life is lived forwards...understood backwards.
Thank God she had a child.
These are the kooks that bring us all down.

[Coleus]

GET REAL.

She was trying to HAVE A baby ,,,


She had over 140 of them, one of them made it, the others were killed.

[AuH2ORepublican]

"She was trying to HAVE A baby ,,,"

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But instead she had 140 babies and killed 139 of them. 139 wrongs don't make a right.

Jim Greenwood is gone, KQQL. Who's going to be the Congressional voice of the new Herods? Well, there's always Nancy Pelosi, I guess.

[Grey Ghost II]

GET REAL. She was trying to HAVE A baby ,,,

So, it's ok to kills babies as long as it's not called abortion?

[Terriergal]

GET REAL. She was trying to HAVE A baby ,,,

Depends on how you define life, and Catholics are supposed to define it as beginning at conception. Therefore in her eagerness to have a baby, according to her own beliefs she offed a bunch of others.

I can't imagine allowing them to try to implant a bunch of embryos at a time - for one thing I wouldn't want to risk having six at a time, but the main reason is that too many others get 'flushed.'

[Salvation]

Have you become secularized?

[jsbankston]

Dude, you have been banned!

[Mrs. Don-o]

Just having a good end in view (having a baby) doesn't justify every possible means to that end.

In practice, everybody sees the truth of this statement. We've read about the (thankfully) rare but maniacal woman who cuts open another woman's belly to take her baby: obviously her desire, to have a baby, is good, but her means (taking another's life) is immoral.

It's an extreme example, all right. But begetting and sacrificing numerous genetic siblings to obtain the one desired baby is comparable in this respect: you're willing to dispose of others to get the baby you want.

Whatever our good intentions, in practice IVF trashes human life, and I believe it should be prohibited by law.

[Arthur McGowan]

She HAD one baby. She KILLED about 140 babies.

What’s funny is that by your total contempt for the value of those 140 babies, you provide solid corroboration for the assertion that IVF entails contempt for the value of the human person.

[Arthur McGowan]

I am reporting you for abuse. The reason: advocates killing babies, which is a form of BIGOTRY, which is not allowed on FR.