There's the impact. No trails or anything. It was forced down by islamics.... And if it was shot down, why hide it? It had to be done anyway.
What I have heard locally is verified by this article, or this article verifies what I have heard from locals, for whatever its worth.
To us the most striking finding was the distance and volume of debris from the crash site, especially in New Baltimore.
President Bush and his team have the whole story. So why aren't they telling the rest of us?
If they had to shoot dowbn this plane, that's OK. It was necessary.
And they do not have to tell us if or why.
"Passenger Edward Felt made an emergency call from the plane ... spoke of an explosion and seeing some white smoke. Hmm he didn't say "Jesus - WE'VE BEEN HIT!" or "Jesus - SOMETHING JUST BLEW UP!" Sorry, this doesn't wash ... Geez ... remember a NUMBER of pasengers made calls via the GTE Airfones on board that flight - and I suspect that there were a couple of calls in progress DURING this entire time (I would have made one myself - damn the three dollars a minute it would have cost me if I had lived!) period! Anyway - it's NOT likely an appropriately placed air to air missile would have had negligible effect and NOT made a loud noise ALSO hearable over the phone connection TO the guy on the ground ... "a one-ton section of the engine" What does that mean? A one-ton section? Was it the turbine? Was it part of the external turbine housing? What kind of FORCE from an explosion results when an airplane augers in at high speed? How mush debris is belched out - like when a rock hits water or an impact crater is made? "but at 9:22 am a sonic boom" What happens when one starts mucking around with engine thrust on turbo fan engine - can you do weird stuff like dump excess fuel into it and then shut-off-restart if you don't know what you are doing? "earthquake monitor in southern Pennsylvania" Maybe this was because of something else - like the usual bachground noise from sources including truck vibration of the ground ... "the last thing heard on the cockpit voice recorder is the sound of wind" I suspect this would NOT be the last sound heard on the CVR if they had been hit by an air to air missile. WHAT ABOUT THE SOUND OF AN EXPLOSION!!!! "less than 10 minutes flying time from Washington. " IF the goombas flying it KNEW which direction to head, and, the FAA guys watching the ARSR's (Air Route Surv. RADARs would have KNOWN this and would ALSO have seen the interceptors on their scopes TOO. WAS THERE A CONSPIRACY TO SHUT THESE GUYS UP? - - - - - REALLY NICE conspiracy theories are usually wound around the SELECT PRESENTATION of just a FEW FACTS, like the so-called 'facts' below. Sort of like a trial where ALL you hear from is the prosecution - or the defense!
"It had two rear engines, a big fin on the back like a spoiler on the back of a car and with two upright fins at the side.
It was a Falcon 20.
Seems there was a pilot's story posted from one the USAF or ANG pilots who scrambled for the hijacked airliners that day. Shoot down was not unthinkable, but embarrassingly impossible. The pilots report the fighter aircraft were unarmed September 11. (One big happy post-cold war new world order family.)
The pilot's takedown plan was to slice the hijacked aircraft wing off with the fighter aircraft wing in a daring midair collision. Rotating the fighter aircraft into a 90 degree tilt, then pulling the eject lever right before impact. Sure wish I knew where the story was.
Exactly so. Perhaps our great-grandchildren will hear the full story of Flight 93, but we do not have to.
So, the allegation is this: The US has an entirely secret, armed, warjet that it stations on call for air-to-air defense, instead of just using F-16's and F-15's?
Why would they do that? Eyewitness reports are exceedingly unreliable. That is not to say that these people are liars or anything, just that in times of stress people very often confuse time-frames and other information.
Remember that The Mirror is massively, totally, virulently anti-Bush, anti-Blair and anti-war. (And they've lost between 6 and 10% of their entire circulation, since they decided to position the paper as a liberal hate-based rag after 9/11.)
If you need a little more convincing, here's Monday morning's Daily Mirror cover:
In case you can't make it out, that's a photo of the newspaper projecting a giant anti-war image onto the side of Parliament.
Standard FBI operational procedure.
Passenger Edward Felt made an emergency call from the plane. He spoke of an explosion and seeing some white smoke. The superviser who took the call has been gagged by the FBI.
Standard FBI operational procedure.
The FBI insists there was no military plane in the area but at 9.22am a sonic boom - caused by a supersonic jet - was picked up by an earthquake monitor in southern Pennsylvania, 60 miles away from Shanksville.
Standard FBI operational procedure.
Two other airplanes were flying near the hijacked United Airlines jet when it crashed in Somerset County, but neither had anything to do with the airliner's fate, the FBI said yesterday.In fact, one of the planes, a Fairchild Falcon 20 business jet, was directed to the crash site to help rescuers. The request for the jet to fly low and obtain the coordinates for the crash explains reports by people in the vicinity who said a white or silver jet flew by moments after the crash.
A C-130 military cargo plane was also within 25 miles of the passenger jet when it crashed, FBI spokesman Bill Crowley said yesterday, but was not diverted.
"There was a hole in the ground -- that was it," said Yates Caldwell, the pilot who was at the controls of the 10-passenger corporate jet for Greensboro, N.C.-based apparel maker VF Corp. "There was no way to know what it was .... I didn't know there had been a crash until I landed, until I was on the ground in Johnstown."