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To: SteamshipTime
If you favor anti-discrimination laws, then there is no way you can oppose the free entry of individuals into the US so long as they pay their own freight. Your objection is not really to immigration; it is to the social cost of immigration. This social cost is imposed by welfare, which immigrants take enthusiastic advantage of, and anti-discrimination laws, which removes the economic and social penalties for refusing to adopt the native culture's values.

Well I oppose the free entry of individuals into the US as to do so would be quite insane. Most immigrants do not enter the US with the intention of obtaining welfare. Once they get here and find out how easy it is to get then they sign up. I do not blame the immigrants for obtaining it either, I blame the government who gives it to them.

But that is quite beside the point. The free entry of persons would end this country as we know it in short order. There are BILLIONS of people around the world who be here tomorrow if they could and not for the welfare. How long would you stay in Pakistan if you could get to and stay in the US?

Remember what happened when Carter indicated that he would not deport people arriving from Haiti. Now imagine that on a planetary scale and you would see what an open border policy would result in. This country would resemble Bangladesh or India within a year. Crime and civil war would shortly follow.

I agree with a few positions of the libertarians but as long as this is in their platform they lack all credibility and can't be taken seriously.

50 posted on 09/23/2002 10:27:38 AM PDT by usurper
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To: usurper
Let me clarify. Libertarian philosophy embraces freedom of association. It also embraces the right to one's own property. Thus, in a libertarian society, immigrants who passed property lines without permission would be regarded as trespassers. The ranchers in Arizona and Texas who arrest border-crossers would be heroes, not villains.

Likewise, if you didn't want to rent your apartment complex to Bangladeshis who'd try to move ten family members in and slaughter goats in the courtyard, you would not have to.

I submit that a libertarian society would have immigration, but no immigration "problem."

So long as we have public, as opposed to private, ownership of entry into the US, then in my opinion, the public's will in this regard should be followed and the fact is the majority of ALL racial and economic groups OPPOSE the current level of immigration. Thus, unlike the LP, I agree that immigration should be curbed, if not eliminated entirely, so long as the points of entry are "publicly" owned.

57 posted on 09/23/2002 10:41:30 AM PDT by SteamshipTime
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