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If Trump’s Rage Brings ‘Civil War,’ Where Will the Military Stand?
The Daily Beast ^ | October 6, 2019 | Patricia Ravalgi

Posted on 10/06/2019 6:33:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The moment may come when soldiers have to choose between the Constitution and Donald Trump. No doubt most will embrace the Constitution. But some will see that as a tough call.

Earlier this week Donald Trump, commander in chief of the U.S. armed forces, tweeted that his impeachment “will cause a Civil War” from which the country might never recover. Picking up on remarks made by an evangelical pastor on Fox News, Trump did not just say his removal would lead to a huge electoral defeat for the Democrats, or even mass demonstrations. He said “civil war”. Americans taking up arms against other Americans in his name.

“Civil War 2” started trending on Twitter. So, for a time, did #CivilWarSignup.

In the modern era, real civil wars have been the great affliction of Third World countries—conflicts that split nations and societies along political, ethnic or religious fault lines. They are very often accompanied by martial law and resolved by military intervention. Is this what the president has in mind? Where would the U.S. military stand in such a situation? A view from the inside indicates the armed forces are as divided as the rest of the country—and divided is a dangerous place for the U.S. military to find itself.

After spending 19 years in Washington with intelligence jobs in Congress, at the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security (focusing on counterterrorism and counterintelligence), I had the opportunity to join the commander’s Red Team at U.S. Central Command in Tampa, Florida.

Within a few years, however, CENTCOM’s senior leadership told us Red Team’s “alternative analysis” was “confusing” the commander. (Truth was, they really didn’t want any competing analysis contradicting what the traditional intelligence analysts were selling.)

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: armedforces; army; civilwar; cw2; cwii; cwiiping; insurrection; military; trump
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To: trebb
BUT, if Trump is impeached (and Pence), then Nancy's in charge.

Do the majority stick with their oath?

21 posted on 10/06/2019 6:58:56 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is not President Trump who is trying to provoke civil war. The left has been working to that end for decades. The left has been using various terrorist groups for generations to try to incite civil uprising. Antifa, the group that originally was a rival to Hitler’s socialist party, is only the latest terrorist group to team up with DemocRATs.


22 posted on 10/06/2019 6:59:26 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The 'civil warfare' at this point in in a 'cold war' status.

The small time skirmishes by antifa needs serious squashing before skirmishes cause big time ignition.

23 posted on 10/06/2019 7:03:05 AM PDT by chief lee runamok (expect nothing)
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To: exDemMom
"It is not President Trump who is trying to provoke civil war. The left has been working to that end for decades."

I agree with this entirely. The left are only peaceful and 'civil' when they are getting their way.

24 posted on 10/06/2019 7:03:59 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Brilliant

Posse Comitatus was gutted a long time ago.

It is of no practical value now whatsoever.


25 posted on 10/06/2019 7:05:08 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, I found this article very uplifting. The left is getting worried about the real possibility of violent revolution against them. It sounds like a lot of the military may ultimately support what needs to be done. I also enjoyed the writers total naivete about how we have gotten to this point. The writer had no idea, no idea at all why Trump would be so distrustful of the Washington bureaucracy and national media other than proffering a theory that this was part of Trump’s larger strategy to take over and become dictator. I hope this is true and not part of some kind disinformation campaign. I thought The Pentagon had been taken over by the left.


26 posted on 10/06/2019 7:09:38 AM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If Trump’s Rage the Democrats' Coup d'État Succeeds and it Brings ‘Civil War,’ Where Will the Military Stand?
27 posted on 10/06/2019 7:14:32 AM PDT by Savage Beast (You'd think they'd learn from the Roadrunner Cartoons, but they just send off to Acme and try again.)
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To: Leaning Right

I think it is debatable whether the current House impeachment proceedings are actually legal as they are depriving The President the right of due process.


28 posted on 10/06/2019 7:16:08 AM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In my experience, the support for Donald Trump among a large segment of the U.S. military is downright cult-like.

Cult-like?

Coming from the cult of leftism, that’s an interesting insult.

Everything Trump has to be couched in evil with these asses.

29 posted on 10/06/2019 7:20:37 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: Brilliant

Not necessarily...some of the post 9/11 legislation changed some of that...and not in a good way.


30 posted on 10/06/2019 7:21:20 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: McCarthysGhost
This author is anything but nave, she is an architect and agent of the Obama revolution
31 posted on 10/06/2019 7:21:25 AM PDT by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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To: DarthVader

What about all those Perfumed Princes wearing three and four stars appointed by Obama? You know, the Wesley Clark variety who approve faggie `marriages’ in dress blues?


32 posted on 10/06/2019 7:22:49 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I dunno but to ones I have talked to have said they have had it with the crap from the sons a bitches from the demoncRAT party.

So...


33 posted on 10/06/2019 7:31:07 AM PDT by crz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Read John Adams.

The entire reason a king (the single executive, or monarchy) was made commander in chief of the armies was to protect itself and the people (the democracy) from the always scheming few (the aristocracy, or oligarchy).

And we’re seeing just that.

Four thousand years of governmental experience has its benefits.


34 posted on 10/06/2019 7:31:27 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article appears to be readable and written by a sober person, not a drunk and low IQer like the other article.


35 posted on 10/06/2019 7:35:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and t Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thranks to jonascord)!)
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To: McCarthysGhost; Leaning Right

And per the Constitution, it’s not up to the Speaker of the House to impeach, it’s the whole House.


36 posted on 10/06/2019 7:38:15 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like Patricia is all wee-wee’d up.

Not to mention...looks like she’s on the wrong side.


37 posted on 10/06/2019 7:39:08 AM PDT by moovova (You can't buy it back if you didn't sell it to me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump’s rage? Is that like Jews rage in 1939 Berlin?


38 posted on 10/06/2019 7:40:36 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People have been predicting civil war for 20 years. Trump is in politics for barely 4 years and yet he’s bringing civil war?


39 posted on 10/06/2019 7:40:59 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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To: Afterguard

The Kenyanesian Usurper ran off all the warriors.
ALL of our flag officers saluted the transgenderizing of our military.


40 posted on 10/06/2019 7:41:44 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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