Posted on 09/09/2019 12:50:13 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
ATN’s Obsidian 4 app allows you to connect your smart phone to products like their X-Sight 4K Pro night vision or the ThOR 4 thermal optics.
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Apple and Google have been ordered by the U.S. government to hand over names, phone numbers and other identifying data of at least 10,000 users of a single gun scope app, Forbes has discovered. It’s an unprecedented move: never before has a case been disclosed in which American investigators demanded personal data of users of a single app from Apple and Google. And never has an order been made public where the feds have asked the Silicon Valley giants for info on so many thousands of people in one go.
According to a court order filed by the Department of Justice (DOJ) on 5 September, investigators want information on users of Obsidian 4, a tool used to control rifle scopes made by night vision specialist American Technologies Network Corp. The app allows gun owners to get a live stream, take video and calibrate their gun scope from an Android or iPhone device.
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Apple and Google have been told to hand over not just the names of anyone who downloaded the scope app from August 1 2017 to the current date, but their telephone numbers and IP addresses too, which could be used to determine the location of the user. The government also wants to know when users were operating the app.
But the order from the DOJ demands all user data, not just those with IP addresses located outside the US. Which means a lot of perfectly legal users of ATN products — hog hunters and the like — will have their information turned over to the feds,....
(Excerpt) Read more at thetruthaboutguns.com ...
Because I'm pretty sure that they will keep ALL of the ingfo on file, even if they are being honest about only being worried about forbidden foreign buyers.
I first learned about this on a bitchute video here:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YtbImdkWFuM/
The TTAG article is a couple days old, so maybe some of you already know about it.
I own an ATN thermal scope and downloaded the app to my Android phone. I don’t use the app and now I wish I had never downloaded it.
I hunt feral hogs on my property from time to time.
I almost bought one several months ago.... Prices have sure come down since then.
Even before this came up, it always irritated me that most of the companies that make devices that use smartphone apps don’t publish the apps themselves, for download directly from their websites, or better yet on one of those little CDs or a flash memory card and include it with a device. You gotta go through Apple or google to get it, or use one of those third party app sites, where you don’t know what you are getting.
About that scope..
It’s possible that foreigners used servers that were here, in the U.S.
In other words, foreigners might have used machines in the U.S. to download the software from Apple and Google and transferred it out of country afterwards. Really, information can be chained and mixed, even with more encryption, through quite a few machines before it gets to final destinations.
With an iPhone, unless you do other sketchy things to your phone to 'jailbreak' it, the only way you can download apps is through the Apple App Store.
Companies couldn't offer apps on a CD even if they wanted to.
Lemme guess...boating accident - again?
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Time for 150 million gun owners to download app.
Next up, anyone who’s played any of the Silent Scope video games.
No app with it.
Well at least with an android phone (I've never had the desire to own an apple product (not that I'm fond of anything google has anything to do with either) it is quite easy to 'sideload' an APK. You can even do it on an Amazon Kindle, without 'rooting' them.
And I HAVE purchased a few devices that did come with a mini-cd with their device's android app on it, although such is a rarity.
If I had an item that did not allow me to do anything with it other than what I buy from their company, I'd re-think my choice of supplier....
Kind of like farmers are now starting to re-think John Deere farm machinery because the manufacturer won't let the farmers service and repair their machinery themselves.
How’d you guess? ;-)
#3 Dalberg-Acton I turned you in and got $50!
I need bail money . . .
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